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Brian Gause
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Sun, 12 Mar 2000 15:08:30 -0800
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Re: (idm) Re: The Good Old Days
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All, This is an interesting argument that crops up again and again. I have a feeling even the ancient Greeks were doing this. "Yeah, that Homer...he just can't tell a story like he used to." We used to do it here about RDJ a few years ago. It goes on and on. On the surface, this is about the music...but this argument is never about the music. It's about your own changing tastes and reminiscent ideas about "the good old days". Think, for a minute, about your parents. Do they listen to new music or do they still listen to the same music they listened to twenty years ago? This attitude, that things are getting worse somehow (in music, society, politics, etc) is what leads to the so-called generation gap. If you get stuck in 88-89 detroit, you'll never see the beauty of mille plateaux 2000 or something else five years down the line. Sure, Incunabula was a landmark album for sean and rob, but they're artists and they're changing. Some of it works for me, some doesn't...but you have to understand that an album (or a music) doesn't exist in a vacuum. The reason an album is beautiful or brilliant is, in part, because of what it's being compared to. This means that time and place play a crucial role in understanding and taste (taste being the integration of your own understanding...however that works)... so, if you never grow out of 89 detroit, you're tastes will never change. If you never accept that it might get better than it used to be, you will stop growing. It's not about the BEST music because music can't be quantified like this. I can't help but think of Picasso. He was ridiculed at every turn and there's still a huge portion of the public who think his blue period was his best work. Maybe, maybe not...but to stop there is missing out on about 50 years of his work. This seems disappointing beyond words. There have been some interesting points in this thread, but it seems simple enough to me...when you stop looking for new stuff, you stop growing. And, for me, this is what happened to my parents. That's a path I'm not taking. ---brian AeOtaku@aol.com wrote:
quoted 17 lines In a message dated 3/12/00 12:34:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,> In a message dated 3/12/00 12:34:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, > massimo@pavilion.co.uk writes: > > << > Also, it's not really fair to ask artists to keep on making the same music >> > > Yeah, I totally agree, which is what I think I said. > I was just pointing out that I much prefer the old > material, as I think most other hardcore fans of this > genre do. It's fine that they keep making new releases > in many genres as long as I have the old releases to spin. > > Matt > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
-- Save the whales. Collect the whole set. Trade them with your friends. Brian Gause Technical Writer Applications Division Oracle Corporation (650) 506-1311 bgause@us.oracle.com The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org