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From:
Brock Suter
To:
Random Junk
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Date:
Tue, 19 Aug 1997 19:10:54 -0700
Subject:
Re: (idm) 'Just' Spinning...(long)
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Random Junk wrote:
quoted 5 lines there is a strange fear on the part of most DJs i know about doing> there is a strange fear on the part of most DJs i know about doing > anything that might be perceived as weird. it's like, throw down 90 > minutes of straight 4 on the floor stuff that mixes together > seamlessly. i don't know about you, but i find that to be utterly > dull.
Yes jon, I find it dull as all get out too. But that's not really what I was referring to. I made the assumption that since I'm on IDM, people would know I'm not a house dj and I would be gauging these performances by IDM (read: weird) standards. I play everything imaginable, as do most of the people I hang out with. I LOVE mixing it up...I can't stand even 20 minutes of the same old beat thumping along at the same old tempo. But there is a right way to navigate through different styles, while maintaining a flow, some continuity between all the different moods and flavors, that brings it all together in a good set. It's a lot of work, takes tons of practice and doesn't ALWAYS come off right, but it CAN be done. The opposite of this is just playing records...Letting them run out (silence is cool!), turning off the power, etc. This is the easy way out...Anyone can do it. It takes a bit more thought and ability to make dissimilar records work together, in the mix. That was my point.
quoted 7 lines i recently had a chance to do some tag-team DJ'ing with daum of freaky> i recently had a chance to do some tag-team DJ'ing with daum of freaky > chakra at a benefit. a lot of people were only there for the > performance so they cleared out once we got on the decks. but it was > cool, we played a whole lot of weird shit that wouldn't ordinarily get > aired, we didn't worry about perfect robotic beatmatching, and we had > a blast. people danced too. (well, they stopped when i put on Senor > Coconut, but that just shows that All People Except Me Are Stupid.)
That's all good! I prefer to play non dance floor venues, like second (or third) rooms, coffee houses, and other experimental places, just for the fact that you have total freedom to do what ever you want. You don't have to keep people dancing, just keep them interested and entertained. It's really not just about beat matching. :-)
quoted 6 lines well now i don't know about "tightness"... the ninja guys are> well now i don't know about "tightness"... the ninja guys are > obviously extremely talented and versatile on the decks, but they come > from the hip hop tradition which is a little more rough and ready. > i guess i'm just a bit picky about the word "tight". they are tight, > but not in the traditional smoothed out devoid of interest DJing that > seems to be the norm.
When I say not being tight, I mean things that didn't sound right, like flying beats, sloppy scratching, lazy mixes. I'm not saying they sucked, because that's the farthest from the truth. I had a great time. I was just saying, that by a DJ's standards, their shit wasn't very 'tight'...but then again, neither am I (sometimes).
quoted 2 lines too bad. when i saw him in SF, he didn't beatmatch but he did> too bad. when i saw him in SF, he didn't beatmatch but he did > smoothly segue from one record to the next.
You guys must have worn him out for us! ;-) Actually, my friend said he thought he was just being lazy because (at the square party) there wasn't really very many people there. But he saw him the next night and Talvin did the same thing.
quoted 7 lines well, there's DJing and there's turntable artistry. any bozo can> well, there's DJing and there's turntable artistry. any bozo can > beatmatch two 4 on the floor records. the ninjas and the skratch > piklz and the rest of the "battle" DJs use the turntables as deadly > scratchnological weapons. i'd rather watch koala scratching madly and > missing a few beats here and there than some attitudinal wanker with a > cigarette dangling carelessly from his lip while he listlessly fades > between two perfectly matched boring thump thump records.
No argument here! peace out, brock. np: nothing again...