At 2:46 am +0100 6/6/97, . . . . wrote:
quoted 7 lines i mean let's face it, kirk degiorgio doesn't like artists that don't sound>>
>> i mean let's face it, kirk degiorgio doesn't like artists that don't sound
>> like himself! it's got to be 'his' sound and 'his' idea, and anything that
>> falls out of his sphere of influence hasn't got any soul. he's a
>> loudmouth, but at least he doesn't lick anyone's arse. and i love his
>> records, so there
>>
Agreed that he has the courage of his own convictions. Can't say that I
really agree with them. As I said in my original post, I do like his
music, on the whole. Sometimes he's rather boring but when he gets it
right it can be wonderful.
quoted 8 lines Who would credit it etc. Hirst is something of a charlatan, but there's no>> >Who would credit it etc. Hirst is something of a charlatan, but there's no
>> >need to slur James and Jenkinson with that tag.
>>
>> yeah sure as soon as hirst is seen on telly he suddenly becomes a prick and
>> part of the 'trainspotting/tarantino' youth shit culture! i dunno, he
>> seems quite interesting, he can do my covers any day of the week, as long
>> as he doesn't charge
>
I don't see what 'television' has to do with it. That was certainly not
the point I was making. I've seen several Hirst 'pieces' and they were
awful. Ten out of ten for bravado and for manipulating the media (I'm
thinking primarily of the Art establishment in London here). Three out of
ten for artistic merit. I side with Brian Sewell against the likes of
Sarah Kent who champion Hirst et al.
Mainstream media attention did not alter the essential vacuousness of
Hirst's vision, in as much as he has such a thing. The bloke who squirted
the ink into the dead sheep 'piece' exhibited more radicalism/subversion in
that one act than Hirst will in his entire career.
quoted 3 lines like most good musicians hirst is someone who produces something good to look>like most good musicians hirst is someone who produces something good to look
>at or listen to.. but he isnt the sort of person youd probably want to meet
>or go to the pub with!!
Isn't it the other way around? He's probably of much more interest as a
person than as an artist.
quoted 6 lines As for kirk degiorgio, he has always come across to me as being 'second rate>As for kirk degiorgio, he has always come across to me as being 'second rate
>detroit', hes made some really nice records (amalia on art is absolutely
>lush),
>but most of his stuff is boring... and i do like subtle music! whenever hes
>alongside balil or b12 or whoever on art he always sounds pretty poor.
>
He's not alone in sounding weak compared to Balil. Others have made the
point that DeGiorgio lacks originality, which is to some extent true.
However, you can still be good without being original. There are
sufficient really good tracks on all the As One albums for me not to regret
having bought them.
adam