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From:
Chris Fahey
To:
'IDM'
Date:
Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:28:09 -0400
Subject:
RE: (idm) Dj Shadow Live - Horrible
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I'm seeing him tuesday.... We'll see what happens in NYC. We'll storm his shit if he quits after 25 minutes. I seriously thought he would at least go on for 45 minutes to an hour.. at least. That's not a lot to expect from a DJ. He's doing the instore stump-the-DJ preformance at Other Music on monday night, then the show at Tramps the next night. I have no worries about Jeru. But has anyone ever heard of Camp Lo, their opening act? -CF
quoted 187 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: idm-owner@hyperreal.com [SMTP:idm-owner@hyperreal.com] On Behalf > Of William D. VanLoo > Sent: Friday, April 18, 1997 11:05 AM > To: beaumont.6@osu.edu > Cc: idm@hyperreal.com > Subject: Re: (idm) Dj Shadow Live - Horrible > > In light of the "dj shadow is horrible live" thread, I thought I'd > toss my > opinion in (since it's pretty far to the contrary...) > > > Well tonight I drove for about 5 hours round trip just to see DJ > Shadow > > play live in Cincinatti, Ohio. And before you start ragging on me > for > > liking him, or say something along the lines of "I could have told > you = > > he would suck", hear me out. > > I too drove long distances last weekend to see DJ Shadow (well, I spun > at > a small party, too, but seeing Shadow was the main focus). I came > around > 16 hours round trip, from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan to > Minneapolis. > > Friday while in Minneapolis, my small crew and I saw that Shadow would > be performing in-store at Let It Be record store the next day. Chalked > it > up as a must-do, considering that he invited those attending to each > bring > one piece of vinyl, which he'd mix into his set. > > The next day, we went back to Let It Be, and saw the masses forming. > Each > of us gave our record to the person collecting them. I brought "Bug in > the > Bassbin" by Innerzone Orchestra, my friend brought a dub record, and > his > girlfriend brought my copy of Photek's "Natural Born Killers" ep on > Metalheadz. Shadow began his set by saying something to the effect of > "Hi, > I'm Josh. This is my fourth-ever in-store performance", and then went > on > to explain how he thought it'd be great to, instead of just playing > records out of his own box, he'd have people bring their own. > > Lemme just say that this was a pretty damn cool idea. He had > everything > from Muzak records to Tangerine Dream (not too far off the first...) > to > old Run-DMC to Photek. He actually played "Consciousness" of the > Photek > record (at 45rpm!). One of the highlights for me was seeing him drop > in a > sample of some kid's record saying "Let's wait here for the storm to > blow > over", and then cutting it back to the beat in perfect time (from a > record > he'd just been handed). > > So the in-store was really cool. Next, on to the show: > > > I drove down for 5 hours, suffered through some horrid hip hop act, > and > > then listened to Jeru the Damaja do his thing. Jeru was excellent > minus > > his whole anti-asian comments and a few stupid gangsta like moments > of > > juvenile crap - other than that, he put on a fun live show. > > This was almost exactly opposite from my experience. In Minneapolis, > Shadow was slated to play solo first, then appear with the two MCs he > works with, Lyrics Born and Lateef, collectively known as Latyrx. Then > Jeru, then Shadow solo again. > > When we got there, Shadow was spinning behind Latyrx, laying down the > beats and putting some scratches in. I personally thought Latyrx was > pretty good - they were _into_ performing for this crowd, even though > they > were some thousand-odd miles from California. Lyrics Born even > mentioned > he'd stay in Minneapolis if he could, they were that excited to play > for > the crowd. It really showed in their performance; they were > enthusiastic, > they played off each other's energy, and they didn't bog down with > bullshit crowd participation/baiting, the way Jeru did... > > Jeru, in my opinion, was on some bullshit. He came out and did his > show, > but *every single verse*, it seemed, he'd stop everything and > threaten > the crowd by saying he'd leave if everybody didn't get hyped. By the > end > of the night, I was ready for him to leave looong before he did. Don't > get > me wrong, because I love hip-hop. I understand crowd participation, > and > crowd involvement. But berating an audience isn't the way to do it. > This > was especially clear when contrasted with Latyrx, a young, hungry > group > eager to do their thing, have a good time, and put on a good > performance. > > > The DJ Shadow came on, first they never turned the lights down for > him, so > > it was like watching him in a gym. Secondly, and this is the part I > am = > > very angry about, he played for 15 minutes. THAT'S IT. I drove for > hours, = > > paid my money to see THAT. I absolutely couldn't believe it. We > were given = > > no explanation, and shadow just walked off the stage. Never played > = > > "What does your soul look like", etc. Nothing. Total 15 minutes > =3D = > > $15 ticket, $20 gas, and $15 or so money I could have made working = > > tonight. $50 to see him play one or two songs and leave. > > I admit to being disappointed about the short closing set myself. But > you > have to realize that, if it was anything like the Minn. date, he'd > done an > instore, done a solo performance and backed his two MCs BEFORE you > even > saw him at the end. I was kicking myself for not getting to the venue > sooner so I could have seen his solo performance at the beginning, but > I > was pretty well consoled by the absolutely beautiful music Shadow was > playing during his 20-25 minute closing set. > > Shadow had both his turntables and some studio gear with him, and > seemed > to be using both. I think he started his set off record, and then > mixed in > some sample-based stuff off his gear. He played basically all album > tracks > from "Endtroducing..." and did a lot of mixing stuff over/with/around > the > tracks coming from whatever source. His beats sounded soooo good on a > loud > PA, and he also was obviously very into his performance. He actually > broke > it down in his set to 3 or 4 minutes of just strings and pads, no > beats, > in a _club_, mind you, before finally bring a beat in. I watched his > set > and was inspired. > > This man creates mood like nobody's business. During "Midnight in a > perfect world", you could see that it was midnight in that club. His > stuff > was just really, really good. > > > Needless to say I don't ever plan on buying DJ Shadow or Mo Wax > again > > if this is the respect they have for their fans. And to think, 15 = > > minutes from my house Dego from Reinforced was playing live. > Cheaper, = > > closer, and probably much much better. > > Well, sorry you didn't like it. If I had the opportunity to see Dego > live > 15 minutes from me I would have probably stayed home too, but I would > missed a really inspirational show, in my opinion. You really > shouldn't > blame Mo'Wax or Shadow, though. As far as I know, the tour is > organized by > London/FFRR, the US distributors of both Mo'Wax (shadow) and Payday > (Jeru). It was their decision to organize things that way, I think, > and > Mo'Wax or Shadow probably had no decision in how it was set up. Don't > short yourself on good music because of one bad experience. > > Peace, > > Bill / dj marathon > > -- > f u t u r e listening radio show - hosted by dj marathon > t h u r s d a y 10pm-1am o n wmtu 91.9 fm > e l e c t r o n i c m u s i c * w i t h * s o u l > > http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~wdvanloo/personal/