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From:
crazy jola
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IDM
Date:
Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:27:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject:
(idm) (longish) new twist in the dj discussion...opinions wanted
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the can 'o worms opened up in the dj debates has proven some interesting ideas exist as to where the importance of a dj begins and ends. many people make knee-jerk reactions (both positive and negative) when confronted with questions valuing dj validity, due to their experiences dealing with, being promoted by, enjoying, or being a dj. most of us have had regular experiences with dj culture, some find it as a postive subculture of electronic musics, some find it a overblown alternative to live performances. either way, djs are not going to cease and desist anytime soon. let's take a closer look at what they do and how they affect the artist. djs don't materialize from thin air. most have to scramble to get any recognition no matter where they are, whether they are in clubs or on radio. the most poplular form of dj promotion is the mixtape. mixtapes are now sold in record stores, traded worldwide, even bootlegged and resold. the majority of mixtapes sold do not have tracklistings crediting the artists. how does the mixtape affect the artist? would you feel it benifits the exposure of the music, or does it hinder it? consider that the average mixtape buyer is a "fan" of the music, but probably not enough of a fan that they would buy even half of the original copies of the twenty to twenty five tracks on a ninety minute mixtape. should a dj tracklist mixtapes on the label? should they not? artists: would you rather a dj tracklisted their tape? what if the tape sucked? there is always the possibility that a person would butcher a song a person worked hard to perfect. what if they didn't touch the song at all, i.e. let a eight minute song nearly run it's entire course, only to beatmatch it's hi-hat intro...and let it fade on it's own? now, what happens if that dj credits the song on the tracklist? who deserves the money paid for the tape? artists/djs: a good number of artists who release their own, or other peoples tracks, use djing as a form of promotion. many listmembers are esteemed artists promoting theirs and others creations. how do you feel about people who want taped copies of your dj performences? djs: many of you have talents that turn mere tracks into epics, you can create new compositions between two turntables (or whatever your format). what about artists and critics who think the only person you are trying to promote is yourself? I once had an at-length discussion on the dancefloor about the promotion end of djing. my debator offered that if a dj really wanted to promote every track they played, they would announce artist, title and label after playing it. i knew good and well that that was not going to be the case (can you imagine how irritating that would be?) but i did say this: any dj worth his salt should give that information up to anyone who asks. then i began to wonder, what about all those djs who black out their labels, will not engage in conversations about what's in the crates, and fear dj competition. a dj i used to work with spent all night, every night, next to the performing dj with a notepad in hand. wouldn't you be kind of irritated too? i have loads more questions i would like to ask, but in the spirit of not turning 313 and IDM into dj discussions, i would ask that most of this be replied to me in private email if possible, though i know that a few listmembers responses will draw some curiosity from the masses. by the way, just to let you know which side of the fence i sit on, i work as a dj 4-5 nights a week, in a silly bar/nightclub. thanks for your input. ______________________________________________________________________________ Cameron psu00110@odin.cc.pdx.edu Blacksmith on the anvil in your ear Electronica for the Jaded and Discerning ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~