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Dale Lawrence
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Tue, 13 Feb 1996 03:36:52 -0500
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Re: (idm) DENVER IS AWFUL
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I apologize for the length of this post but I remembered this post eluna made to the 313 list last week and thought it could help out our little DJ discussion. peace Dale ______________________________________ At 10:25 AM 2/4/96 -0500, eluna wrote:
quoted 105 lines it's less about detroit vs. euro altho it seems to be generally true that>it's less about detroit vs. euro altho it seems to be generally true that >detroit (and american) djs do more tricks. this is definitley not always >true, but it's true enough that there's probably some reasons worth >looking into. but what makes a good dj? > >dunno about UR 33, i don't have that in front of me so i cant remember >which one that is, but i will say that judging dj skill must be prefaced >by a discussion about the following issues before any kind of real >assessment can be made (this also glosses over the issue of musical taste): > >- tricks: > - skill in excecution > - ambition > - subtlety > - appropriateness > >- track selection: > - appropriateness of mix > - versatility > >- building style: > - ability to build > - length of mixes > >- crowd-interaction: > - ability to ride the crowd > - playing crowd-pleasing records (or crowd-annoying if that's the point) > >- "star" quality > >let me explain further and give examples of most of the above. > >- tricks. >as far as skill in excecution, jeff mills is one of the best i've >seen. he is super-tight and can excecute some amazing feats with nary a >glitch. however, claude young wins in the ambition department. he is >not always appropiate, tho; sometimes it's in the wrong environment and >sometimes it doesn't work at all, so that's something else to consider. >titonton also gets props for being overly-ambitious; even if it doesn't >always work he gets props from me for trying. but as far as subtlety of >tricks, i'd say bileebob wins there. he does do a LOT of tricks, but >they are so little and unobtrusive, and so TIGHT, that they become a >seamless part of his sets. > >- track selection. >sometimes a dj will mix two records that simply do not work, so a >sensitivity is necessary to sculpt a real set out of music. one example >of a great selector is mike huckaby. he doesnt do hardly any tricks but >he just plays slammin record after slammin record, no flash at all. >actually, dave angel wins in the no-frills dj department; his skill is in >just playing amazing music with as little "show" as possible. another >example is juan atkins. his mixes are usually sloppy as hell but his >selecion is so good (classics mixed with new stuff), that no one could >ever accuse juan of being a "bad" dj. he plays to educate, not to show off. >versatility must also be considered. if a dj can take you from >house, to traxx, to hardtraxx, to jungle, to trip hop (like my own sets >try in vain to do ;), then you have a damn good dj on your hands. > >- building style. >sometimes djs are good at playing long-ass sets. if they can pull it off >and still sound good then that's a good sign. i have yet to hear a great >marathon dj, as i was unimpressed by laurent garnier (i was bored after >an hour), and have yet to hear a good long set by richie (i usually like >his shorter sets better) but i'm sure there's someone out there. i think >derrick may comes closest. now, as far as length of mixes go, it's >another important consideration. if a dj has everything else going for >them but just cant keep a mix going, that's a severe limitation. i >admire a dj that can keep a record on for like 10 minutes. winner for me >in that category would be paul johnson who doesnt even look at the tables >(he must have his bpm's written down ;) or dave hollands who (it is >rumored) played a plastikman song on one table, kept it going, and mixed >3 songs in and out of it for a nice 20-minute plastikman megamix. > >- crowd interaction: >some djs may be great but don't even look at the crowd at all. some are >exhibitionists who are just getting off at being stared at. but if you >take over after someone who's begun building a wave for you and you can't >keep it going, you suck. paris and bileebob do a great job of taking >the crowd on a trip, and their genuine love for the music and each other >really rubs off on crowds. shake is good at interacting with the crown >altho he plays it off real cool. he pulls out a lot of old shit to make >people happy (not that he's a sellout!). best i've seen at really >getting the crowd into it is probably boris or gene farris from >chicago..these guys jump around like maniacs and it's fun as hell. >then there's the dadaist impulse to annoy the crowd, exemplified by >aphex twin's non-spinning and anyone who plays gabber. ;) > >- "star" quality. >derrick may's ego was sooo big when i saw him in october, that it >ballooned up and swallowed the entire crowd. now THAT was special. >infortunately it can work to your detriment, like the time keoki would >not fly to columbus because his plane ticket was not first class. what a >fuckin ninny. also, there's the "dj as an important historical figure" >issue, people like afrika bambaataa who, altho he plays reggae now, you >can't HELP but respect (juan also has this quality); they can't do no >wrong if you know what i mean... > >i'm not sure this is so list-appropriate, but this "dj style" thing is >something i've been thinking about for a while and just thought i'd begin >to work out. there's probably a lot of other shit i could say but i'll >leave it unfinished for now. > >thanks for reading, anyone else got any ideas? >++ >e d
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