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Sat, 16 Sep 1995 19:33:51 -0700 (PDT)
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Re: Autechre's complexity
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On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Michael Upton wrote:
quoted 3 lines Anyway, I realise I'm ignoring lots of their more complex tracks like the> Anyway, I realise I'm ignoring lots of their more complex tracks like the > first thing on that e.p. and tracks like ummmm... the one with the same > notes as U2's 'Pride (In the name of love)'.
Oh, so somebody else noticed that too, eh? This made it difficult for me to like that track...
quoted 4 lines Sorry, I'm being useless on> Sorry, I'm being useless on > the names front - it's near the end of 'Amber', and has lots of layered > riffs and beats. 'Teartear' is one example I can remember the name of > anyway. :)
That's ok, the names are pretty useless anyway - they're only there so that trainspotters will waste their time trying to decipher them. :-} On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, For Our Stenographer wrote:
quoted 8 lines This is the thing we should embrace about techno as a truely new> This is the thing we should embrace about techno as a truely new > proclamation in the world of music. The lack of melody-changes and > harmony-changes are intended to lock the repetitive elements of the music > so you notice the timbral changes. I don't think that many techno > programmers think of it this way, but that is basically what is > happenning; they are tripping out on the repetitiveness of the music and > (because of the instruments they use) are tweaking the timbral nature of > the music.
A keen observation. Marshall McLuhan would probably take this as further proof of his theories that electronic media are retribalizing Western civilization. IDM, Techno, Ambient, DrumN'Bass - these are all Modal forms of music, as are all tribal musics, and real Jazz. In other words, virtually all musics except for Classical, Pop, and Rock, which are based on Chordal Progression, as a result of human senses being re-ordered by the tyranny of moveable type. But I digress, I seem to have strayed - where are we? IDM, yes... On Sun, 10 Sep 1995, Michael Upton wrote:
quoted 6 lines I'd dispute that rhythm is part of the timbre of the music. To use the> > I'd dispute that rhythm is part of the timbre of the music. To use the > term Thom Heilleson (hope I spelt that right!) used, it's a separate > "axis" on which change can occur. I did an accoustics course in which > timbre was described as a part of the make up of an individual sound, so > what rhythm you put individual sounds into is something else.
Mmmm....sounds like you need to listen to more DrumN'Bass! W/ a fast sustained sound, such as an open high hat, the rhythm at which it's played can definetely affect its timbre. Then again, maybe "textural" would be a better word than "timbral". W/o getting too analytical, I'd like to say that each new release from Autechre forces me to give up another preconception about music. I always spend several listenings going "Huh?", "Wha?", until I learn to accept and love it. Anxiously awaiting the new ones! Chill Che