On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, Derek Oliver wrote:
quoted 5 lines Maybe so, but back in the days of 1987-1989 acid house was terminology used> Maybe so, but back in the days of 1987-1989 acid house was terminology used
> to describe a whole music style, not just the 303 sound. The term acid
> was also used as slang to reffer to "burning" (stealing bits of other
> peoples records). Therefore records catorgorized as "Acid House" didn't
> necessarily have to be full on 303 assaults.
Maybe this wis the (mis)terminology in the UK by some people, but there
also very well informed people. Take A Guy Called Gerald for instance.
He made classic acid tracks back in the day. Also the fella's that
became Bizarre Inc. did a record in '88 called Acid Trance on Blue Chip
that is a 303esque EP (it's not actually a 303 they used - if you know the
sound well enough - it sounds more like a 101 or 202, but it's very good
none the less). I remember some people calling Todd Terry Acid House
back then, because it was repetitive sample based (wrongly stated as
most now know). A very popular track in the UK at that time was Maurice
- This is Acid, but the UK mixes were not even acidic. The original was
true acid from Chicago on Chicago Trax.
quoted 4 lines Also the term "Acid" was> Also the term "Acid" was
> mis/interpreted to relate to lsd, which regardless or not of proper use
> it had a big influence on the psychedelic properties addtributed to "Acid
> House" music and parties.
Actually I read an article interviewing either Marshal Jefferson or DJ
Pierre about the Warehouse in Chicago back then. Apparently Jefferson
and Pierre gave Frankie Knuckles a reel to reel recording of Acid Tracks
before they had named it (almost two years or something before it was
pressed). This is still done to this day because last time I heard
Frankis spin I saw him using reel to reel... Anyway Jefferson or Pierre
went on to say in the interview that the water in the Warehouse was often
spiked with LSD and when Knuckles would put on this track they wrote
people would go absolutely ape shit on the dance floor. Pierre and
Jefferson partially attributed the response to the track to the fact that
people were tripping, so it was subsequently dubbed "acid music". Thus
"Acid Tracks" became the record to define the sound. The rest is history
so to speak.
quoted 3 lines all this stuff, but to say that Psychic TV didn't> all this stuff, but to say that Psychic TV didn't
> contribute to "Acid House" would be an
> understatemnet in my opinion. Just thought I would
I don't see how influencing Tim Simenon or S-Express has anything to do
with "Acid House" either. Clearly they never wrote anything close to
acidic. Mind you they were dance and sample influence, but Todd Terry
had an equal effect on the UK house/dance scene and his tracks are more
aparent in the styles of early UK stuff.
quoted 2 lines House" influenced. How about some 303 tracks that are not just variations> House" influenced. How about some 303 tracks that are not just variations
> of Phuture-Acid Tracks etc.
Boy if you think all acid is a variation on Acid Tracks, you need to get
out more. Try the Universal Indicator EP's. Not even close to Phuture's
style. Check out the acid stuff on UR or other Submerge distributed
stuff. Mad Mike tweaks a 303 that blows all others away. Also look into
the German stuff like Dance Extasy 2000 (or is it 2001 - I can't remember).
-robert
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