On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, implode wrote:
quoted 19 lines On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, The Sandman wrote:>
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> On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, The Sandman wrote:
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> > I don't know how to say this without being impolite but.. you sir, have
> > an attitude problem! Every single person I know that likes industrial
> > music also like to DANCE ! What the fuck to you think you do in a club
> > that plays industrial stuff? Some of the nicest kindest people i know are
> > rivet-heads and they are certainly more open-minded than you. I guess I
> > shouldn't assume that most people that like techno (IDM included) are
> > ravers that also respect other peoples opinions. I'm actually so steamed
> > by your ignorance that I don't think i'm making the point I wanted too.
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> Whoa! Heh..I apologize if I seemed negative with my earlier post.
> I'd hate to be thought of as one of the many nasty people out there
> on the internet (trust me, I've run into most of them).
whatever. i'd chose the word ignorant before nasty.
quoted 12 lines My only point was that years back (when industrial was much bigger>
> My only point was that years back (when industrial was much bigger
> than it is now), there was most definately an attitude against anything
> percived as being intentionally dance oriented - 'disco' or whatever
> people would negatively term it. There was even an attitude by many
> of the 'noise indutrialists' against the bpm bands like Front 242..etc.
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> I truly don't belive that the modern/current sound of techno began
> as some sort of offshoot of nitzer ebb and skinny puppy (although I happen
> to still listen to those records frequently enough ;) I actually see
> more influence from the early 80's breakdancing scene than I do from
> the gloomy noise mongers.
i've read that juan atkins' influences range from ultravox to kraftwerk
to cabaret voltaire to throbbing gristle. carl craig cites klaus schulze
and tangerine dream as influences on his work. just dropping a needle
on a carl craig track certainly confirms that. i mean, jeez, what about
'e2-e4' by manuel gottsching? not only sueno latino but paperclip people
as well.
as to your earlier comment that music by tangerine dream and gottsching
don't fit in with the influences on techno artists, the above certainly
disproves that nonsense.
before you open your mouth on a subject, get some knowledge. industrial
music had a lot of influence on today's artists. they'll even tell you
themselves.
quoted 8 lines As far as being elitist against the industrial crowd is concerned,>
> As far as being elitist against the industrial crowd is concerned,
> I think that's pretty unlikely considering how heavily I was into
> that stuff when I was a bit younger. (Much more into it, I dare say,
> than any of your clubby friends are- but who knows?)
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> Maybe I should just start a new email address so you can send me angry mail
> whenever you're feeling down?
your ignorance and attitude are beginning to bug me.
quoted 3 lines -implode@conan.ids.net>
> -implode@conan.ids.net
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on now: edward ka-spel 'tanith and the lion tree'