IDM Mailing Archive

Sorry about the delay on a couple of these - this last week was heavy school-wise for me. One of the following is a post from someone who wished to remian anonymous. The others are from people with different from: addresses than they are listed on idm, but it's been fixed so they can post from that address now. This might seem kludgy to do this, but you should see how many "subscribe me" posts this saves us from :) Brian From williams@MR.Net Mon Feb 7 17:07:54 1994 From: "fRESHLY oPEN gRAVE" <williams@MR.Net> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 18:54:19 CST To: idm@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: dj attitude On Mon, 07 Feb 94 19:27:06 EST, taylor deupree wrote:

quoted 17 lines the thing that pisses me off the most..

> > > >the thing that pisses me off the most.. > > >i was with some friends.. and one of them popped a tape in that they had >made.. DJ'ed... > >the tape started in the middle of a ong.. and about 10 seconds later.. >someone said.. "oh wow! this i great, bill.. you're really good".. > >like the DJ had *made* the music.. > >being a musician.. i find we get much less credit for our own music than >the DJ ds who spins it. >

Bingo! I just got some HATE mail (with the emphasis on HATE) from a girl who caught one of our shows and said that we were "posers because we were not DJs" and that we "could never be a DJ because we don't have the soul" and that we should "try grunge and leave techno to the DJs". that is just plain fucking ignorant. her letter is hangin on our studio wall now and gives us inspiration..... Kennen Sie eine Merle? Kennen Sie eine Merle? Das ist gut...zu gut. Robert Williams<*>MANNA-MACHINE<*>Minneapolis noise williams@manna-machine.com OR williams@mr.net gerade sie..sie ist mein Opfer. Schad um sie.... sie wird's..ach, nicht lange durchhalten.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ANONYMOUS@ac.uk Tue Feb 8 02:56:18 1994 To: idm Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 10:56:23 GMT Subject: re The Underworld THE UNDERWORLD COME OVERGROUND A lot of us here in curfew city (Glasgow) were really looking forward to the Underworld album - everything that they had put out had been a revelation (eg "Skyscraper","Rez"). Lemon Interrupt's "Dirty" was one of my dancefloor favourites - and the remix was better. Darren Emerson was (is?) one of the best DJ's in the UK and when they appeared at The Arches (a Glasgow club) towards the end of last year the place was BUZZING. All of which leads me to now: "DUBNOBASSWITHMYHEADMAN" is not the stunning debut the British music press would lead us to believe it is. I'm always suspicious of Hype and could smell it a mile off well before the album had been released (actually, pre-release copies had been sent out in early December). When rock hacks fall over themselves to lavish praise on a dance act you just know there's something going down - and that something is Crossover potential, not FUCKING-GO-FOR-IT-HANDS-IN-THE-AIR dancefloor potential, and that's why we are so disappointed. This perhaps looks like a bit of House inverted snobbery and preciousness here, but regardless of the Big Biz detectors bleeping away like crazy in the background its the music which is important and if it's good then nothing else matters...... Well there are some tracks on the Underworld album which are, in my opinion, crap: it's all very well breaking boundaries and progressing, but if one of the areas into which you boldly stride is empty and untouched maybe it's because everyone else realised it wasnt worth going into in the first place ( the numbers "Tongue", "M.E" and "Dirty Epic" being the guilty parties here). What I really want to do here isnt to try and influence people with my opinions, or to bad mouth the Underworld for the sake of it, but to try and convey the sense of disappointment which I and quite a few other people feel about the Underworld just now. I think I'll go out and buy the new Hardfloor remixes now and get THAT buzz back again.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ccastge@acme.gatech.edu Fri Feb 11 15:27:56 1994 From: ccastge@acme.gatech.edu (Guy Elden Jr.) Subject: Re: New Enigma To: idm@techno.Stanford.EDU Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 18:27:54 -0500 (EST) I most definitely agree! I was kind of skeptical when I heard the same opening at the beginning of the new album, but my doubts were put to rest at the beginning of the second track. They definitely hit up with some great bass this time! Also, I've noticed at least two instances of what seem like rips of drum beats from other groups... most notably one on track 4 I believe where I can here the same drum beat as that found in Tonight, Tonight, Tonight by Genesis. Of course, in the context of the other music going on in the background, it blends in rather well, but if you listen carefully, you can hear it. I'll definitely be listening more closely next time, so I can see what else is 'hidden' among the other tracks. -- ccastge@prism.gatech.edu | All of us get lost in the darkness, a.k.a., Guy Elden Jr. | Dreamers learn to steer by the stars... Neil Peart ---->| All of us do time in the gutter, of RUSH | Dreamers turn to look at the cars... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jvance@einstein.oac.uci.edu Sat Feb 12 02:58:23 1994 To: idm@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: shamen: en-tact remixers Date: Sat, 12 Feb 94 02:57:59 -0800 From: Joachim Vance (The Underdog) <jvance@einstein.oac.uci.edu>

quoted 5 lines Twas reading the liner notes for the Shamen "En-tact" album (I had nothing

> Twas reading the liner notes for the Shamen "En-tact" album (I had nothing > better to do), and I noticed that quite a few notable persons were > involved with remixing and production: > > Track 13 (Hyperreal Selector) - Mix & Add. Production by Jack Dangers (MBM)

Hyperreal Selector is really a great track. The best on that album IMO because it sounds like Meat Beat Manifesto, not the Shamen. If I remember right the Shamen played that song in concert and did a good job performing it live. (But it could have been Meat Beat, my mind quits at 3am). Joachim