I have to agree with this point of view. I spin a lot or underground,
deep, morning house that I feel is just as every bit intelligent as
Autechre or B-12. Just depends on how you're listening to it.
Derek
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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:25:25 -0400 Chris Fahey <chrisf@raremedium.com>
writes:
quoted 86 lines I've heard lots of very sophisticated dance music that probably would
>I've heard lots of very sophisticated dance music that probably would
>=
>repel
>most of the people on this list, music which rarely makes it out of
>the
>clubs. I'm talking about house music with divas. In many ways lots of
>=
>this
>IDM stuff is comparatively much more commercial than some of the best,
>=
>most
>interesting underground house.=20
>
>Yes, there's a high-profile brand of house which is unoriginal, =
>retarded,
>and commercial, but just cuz the "House Explosion vol 9" compilation =
>CD's
>they sell at tower records are bad doesn't mean that there isn't house
>=
>out
>there that would blow your socks off and make Global Goon look like an
>amateur tinkerer (not hard).
>
>Some Basic Channel or Carl Craig crosses into what I'm talking about =
>(in
>terms of being, at heart, house music), but is that as far towards =
>house
>this list will venture. Why?
>
>It's a monstrous error to say that house/techno/disco/dance club music
>=
>is
>somehow less intelligently created or heard than IDM, and I often =
>suspect
>that the difference boils down to class/race/sexual preference. One =
>could
>argue pretty convincingly that IDM =3D dance music for straight white
>=
>middle
>class guys who can't dance. There's an entire world of dance music out
>=
>there
>which is both booty shaking and very experimental in nature, but it's
>=
>almost
>never discussed on the IDM list. It's sad - In fact, I have to rely on
>=
>my
>club-DJ friends to even expose me to this stuff.=20
>
>Not that I'm not guilty too - in order to become an aficianado of IDM,
>=
>all
>you need is some money and an email account, but to find out about
>interesting underground house you have to be pretty hardcore about
>your
>nightlife habits and probably have to be a professional DJ. If you =
>think
>about it, IDM is in a way dance music's latest stab at bringing =
>underground
>electronic dance music out of the exclusive control of professional
>DJs =
>and
>into our homes and offices, whereas underground house is still an =
>arcane
>knowledge to which access is extremely difficult. IDM fans buy records
>=
>and
>CDs, while house fans go to clubs, listen, and dance.
>
>Sometimes I think this list needs to be a little more house-broken, so
>=
>to
>speak.=20
>
>
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