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1998-09-22 16:43Bordeaux, Ethanmartin said: > maybe i'm wrong. there may have been a mountain of talk on the list > when

From:: Bordeaux, Ethan <Ethan.Bordeaux@analog.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Cc:: martin burbridge <mbridge@imagicians.com>
Date:: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:43:52 -0400
Subject:: (idm) timeless IDM (was: Caustic Window)

martin said:

quoted 18 lines maybe i'm wrong. there may have been a mountain of talk on the list

> maybe i'm wrong. there may have been a mountain of talk on the list > when it > was released (no reviews tho'), but it certainly gets discussed less > today > now that most people can hear it, than before the release when most > people > hadn't heard it. this seems to point to suspicion i have sometimes > that > rarity can count for more than the music. or maybe its that idm in > particular dates more quickly than other forms of music, being v. much > a > product the latest technology available. sometimes its not clear which > releases that may blow you away today w/ exciting new sounds, actually > have > the substance to keep you wanting to play it again next year. or even > in 5 > yrs time. >

martin, you've brought up a point that i often think about re: IDM. which IDM is classic? which will i be listening to in 1 year or 5 years? it's really hard to say what i'll like in the years to come. i think albums that are well thought out and whose concepts are realized are the ones that i'll come back to in the future. most autechre falls into this category, along with 3EF's semtex & BOC (and fair amount of other stuff that i can't really think of right now). i still get excited about a lot of music and buy much more than i really should but only a small percentage really seems to stick. i'd like to think that there's little talk of older music on this list b/c of our collective phychosis & need to know what's new and not because "drill and bass is SOOOO 1997". ;) continuous new technologies might also hurt timeless IDM. a lot of times the music feels more like a reflection of the latest gadget rather than an actual musical idea. i relish new sounds (dying to hear navy warships), but i also want something behind the sounds... a thought i often have - say all of our beloved musicians were born 200 years ago, which ones would be making music? and what kind of music would they write? would aphex twin write operas, go mad trying to get the bouncing balls out of his head, or what? sorry for rambling, ethan

1998-09-22 19:22Irene McCThe most cogent mails in a long while. On 22 Sep 98, Martin Burbridge wrote: <italic><colo

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
To:: <Ethan.Bordeaux@analog.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 21:22:08 +0200
Subject:: Re: (idm) timeless IDM (was: Caustic Window)
Reply to:: (idm) timeless IDM (was: Caustic Window)

The most cogent mails in a long while. On 22 Sep 98, Martin Burbridge wrote: <italic><color><param>7F00,0000,7F00</param>> sometimes its not clear which releases that may blow you away today

quoted 1 line w/ exciting new sounds, actually have the substance to keep you

> w/ exciting new sounds, actually have the substance to keep you

quoted 1 line wanting to play it again next year.

> wanting to play it again next year.

</italic></color>and Bordeaux, Ethan wrote <italic><color><param>7F00,0000,7F00</param>> there's little talk of older music on this list b/c of our

quoted 1 line collective phychosis & need to know what's new [...] a lot of

> collective phychosis & need to know what's new [...] a lot of

quoted 1 line times the music feels more like a reflection of the latest gadget

> times the music feels more like a reflection of the latest gadget

quoted 1 line rather than an actual musical idea. [...] say all of our beloved

> rather than an actual musical idea. [...] say all of our beloved

quoted 1 line musicians were born 200 years ago, which ones would be making

> musicians were born 200 years ago, which ones would be making

quoted 1 line music?

> music?

(idm) timeless IDM (was: Caustic Window)