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1997-04-18 21:54Arthur B. Purvis Re: (idm) Re: photek & oval
└─ 1997-04-19 20:32Che Re: (idm) Re: photek & oval
├─ 1997-04-20 19:12Solenoidal Bit Protocol (idm) CD skipping chaos
└─ 1997-04-21 18:46Brett McCormick Re: (idm) Re: photek & oval
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1997-04-18 21:54Arthur B. Purvis> Can anyone offer a reason why I should think of Oval as anything other > than boring and
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quoted 3 lines Can anyone offer a reason why I should think of Oval as anything other> Can anyone offer a reason why I should think of Oval as anything other > than boring and a complete waste of time? I listened to their newest > album in a store today and found it to be INCREDIBLY repetitive and
quoted 3 lines I ended up purchasing "68 Million Shades" by Spring Heel Jack and I can> I ended up purchasing "68 Million Shades" by Spring Heel Jack and I can > already tell it's not going to be leaving my CD carousel for a hella long > time.
Funny that, I thought 68 million Shades was boring throwaway jungle crap, whilst Oval's 94diskont was one of the 2 or 3 best discs of last year. Why, you may ask? 68 million... is just one big cliche. Yeah, they throw some extra instrumentation on. Still plays the same goddamn stuff, regardless of the instrument. diskont94, or at least the 1st track (24 minutes long) is the prettiest song I've ever heard made from cd skips and machine fuckups. It's also awesome, making use of a microtonal scale and cd clicks for a beat. --- the humble abbott arthur purvis set his hand hereto.
1997-04-19 20:32CheOn Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Arthur B. Purvis wrote: > Funny that, I thought 68 million Shades was
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On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Arthur B. Purvis wrote:
quoted 6 lines Funny that, I thought 68 million Shades was boring throwaway jungle> Funny that, I thought 68 million Shades was boring throwaway jungle > crap, whilst Oval's 94diskont was one of the 2 or 3 best discs of > last year. > Why, you may ask? 68 million... is just one big cliche. Yeah, they > throw some extra instrumentation on. Still plays the same goddamn > stuff, regardless of the instrument.
68M Shades doesn't sound like any other drum&bass I own (and I own quite a bit). It doesn't even sound like their first or third albums. I'm not sure why you would think it's cliched, unless you're treating all drum&bass the same without really listening to it.
quoted 4 lines diskont94, or at least the 1st track (24 minutes long) is the> diskont94, or at least the 1st track (24 minutes long) is the > prettiest song I've ever heard made from cd skips and machine > fuckups. It's also awesome, making use of a microtonal scale and > cd clicks for a beat.
This techniques been around a long time - a friend of mine, Todd Pluharski, was doing it about 10 years ago. He made the most amazing track using Dolly Parton's version of "White Christmas". It kept skipping on the "I'm dreeemmmminngminginginginging". He did some more tracks using equally bad source material, and sent a copy to Options Magazine. They reviewed it and took him to task for his simple synth tones, but praised him for his innovative use of sampling. What made this really hilarious was that the source material had no synths, and he used no sampler. If you're really into this, take the CDs that you can't give away, one of those silvery metal pens, and some laquer thinner. If you don't like what you've done, clean the ink off with the thinner. You should try out different CD players - some work better than others. You'll quickly find you can do as good or better than Opal. Che
1997-04-20 19:12Solenoidal Bit ProtocolOn Sat, 19 Apr 1997, Che wrote: > On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Arthur B. Purvis wrote: > > If you'
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Sun, 20 Apr 1997 12:12:01 -0700 (PDT)
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On Sat, 19 Apr 1997, Che wrote:
quoted 7 lines On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Arthur B. Purvis wrote:> On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Arthur B. Purvis wrote: > > If you're really into this, take the CDs that you can't give away, one of > those silvery metal pens, and some laquer thinner. If you don't like > what you've done, clean the ink off with the thinner. You should try out > different CD players - some work better than others. You'll quickly find > you can do as good or better than Opal.
A black "Markie" marker works as well and are cheaper, washes off with isoprobyl alcohol, too. I found that drawing a 360 degree spiral from inner to outer edge let me advance to the skipping section of any peice of "data" on the CD. I used to use a 1-beam cd player (circa 1986) so that the loops would "organically" wander around different parts of the CD. Newer CD players usually get stuck in a loop and stay there indefinitely. solenoid@europa.com <------+
1997-04-21 18:46Brett McCormickDo we have to worry about damaging our equipment? On Sat, 19 April 1997, at 20:32:03, Che
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Do we have to worry about damaging our equipment? On Sat, 19 April 1997, at 20:32:03, Che wrote:
quoted 9 lines If you're really into this, take the CDs that you can't give away, one of> If you're really into this, take the CDs that you can't give away, one of > those silvery metal pens, and some laquer thinner. If you don't like > what you've done, clean the ink off with the thinner. You should try out > different CD players - some work better than others. You'll quickly find > you can do as good or better than Opal. > > Che > >