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RE: (idm) Coldcut

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◇ merged from 2 subjects: (idm) coldcut · (idm) eric b and rakim vs. coldcut
1997-03-21 19:26Chris Fahey RE: (idm) Eric B and Rakim vs. Coldcut
└─ 1997-03-21 19:36Joe Rice RE: (idm) Eric B and Rakim vs. Coldcut
└─ 1997-03-21 19:48Zenon M. Feszczak RE: (idm) Coldcut
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1997-03-21 19:26Chris FaheyI think this was someone else who remixed Paid In Full and put in all the cool extended st
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Chris Fahey
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Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:26:36 -0500
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RE: (idm) Eric B and Rakim vs. Coldcut
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I think this was someone else who remixed Paid In Full and put in all the cool extended stuff (the original song is like a minute long) that EricB&Rakim hated. Unless Coldcut's been around (and remixing) for ten years. Is that possible? -CF
quoted 29 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: idm-owner@hyperreal.com [SMTP:idm-owner@hyperreal.com] On Behalf > Of Joe Rice > Sent: Friday, March 21, 1997 1:23 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.com > Subject: Re: (idm) 4-LP 'Hip Hop Don't Stop' > > At 1:55 AM -0800 3/21/97, Damon.Fairclough@psygnosis.co.uk wrote: > > > > >(And much as I remember it with great fondness, I seem to recall that > Eric > >B and > >Rakim hated that Coldcut mix of 'Paid In Full' cos it made 'em come > across > >like > >"a pair of dancing clowns".) > > > >Damon. > > I've heard that as well - and Coldcut subsequently released an > instrumental > version entitled "Not Paid Enough." > > Joe > > > (:Joe > Rice:____________:ambient@netcom.com:___________:joe@psychoactive.com:
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quoted 10 lines (:"Oh, the turntables are his instruments!"> (:"Oh, the turntables are his instruments!" > :) > (:"But I can't tell what sound that record is making!" > :) > (:"I know! He puts them on and off and you never know! I've never seen > :) > (: anything like it!" > :) > >
1997-03-21 19:36Joe RiceAt 11:26 AM -0800 3/21/97, Chris Fahey wrote: >I think this was someone else who remixed P
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Joe Rice
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Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:36:53 -0800
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RE: (idm) Eric B and Rakim vs. Coldcut
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RE: (idm) Eric B and Rakim vs. Coldcut
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At 11:26 AM -0800 3/21/97, Chris Fahey wrote:
quoted 6 lines I think this was someone else who remixed Paid In Full and put in all>I think this was someone else who remixed Paid In Full and put in all >the cool extended stuff (the original song is like a minute long) that >EricB&Rakim hated. Unless Coldcut's been around (and remixing) for ten >years. Is that possible? > >-CF
They've been around longer than that. Their first album came in 1987 or '88 I think and they had a couple 12"s before that. They were pioneers of the sample cut/up house scene that immediately preceded and combined with acid house. Same two guys who are Coldcut now. Joe (:Joe Rice:____________:ambient@netcom.com:___________:joe@psychoactive.com:) (:"Oh, the turntables are his instruments!" :) (:"But I can't tell what sound that record is making!" :) (:"I know! He puts them on and off and you never know! I've never seen :) (: anything like it!" :)
1997-03-21 19:48Zenon M. FeszczakAt 14:36 -0500 21.03.97, you wrote: >At 11:26 AM -0800 3/21/97, Chris Fahey wrote: >>I thi
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Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:48:09 -0500
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RE: (idm) Coldcut
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At 14:36 -0500 21.03.97, you wrote:
quoted 13 lines At 11:26 AM -0800 3/21/97, Chris Fahey wrote:>At 11:26 AM -0800 3/21/97, Chris Fahey wrote: >>I think this was someone else who remixed Paid In Full and put in all >>the cool extended stuff (the original song is like a minute long) that >>EricB&Rakim hated. Unless Coldcut's been around (and remixing) for ten >>years. Is that possible? >> >>-CF > >They've been around longer than that. Their first album came in 1987 or '88 >I think and they had a couple 12"s before that. They were pioneers of the >sample cut/up house scene that immediately preceded and combined with acid >house. Same two guys who are Coldcut now. >
Right on. Coldcut's early material is all good fun also. They/it basically launched Lisa Stansfield's career with the typically house "People Hold On" and the atypically (for Lisa) rapful "My Telephone", which uses a phone bell sample to brilliant effect. Also infamous for the Jetsons' sample in the reggae-toasting "Stop this Crazy Thing". I'm partial to the jazzier side of Coldcut, from "Philosophy" into the Ninja catalogue. Trippy jazz for moody bohemians. If I recall, it was also Coldcut who introduced Ofra Haza to the Western audience via the sample on "Not Paid Enough", which MARRS (aka A.R. Kane and the Colourbox gents, one of whom recently passed away, last work being a brutal remix of a Wolfgang Press track) also even more mercilessly and merrily mangled into the mutation of "Pump Up the Volume". If nothing else, one must appreciate Coldcut's sense of humour, always subversive in a likable way. That's all Ancient Sampling Prehistory, no? 3