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1997-01-21 18:02Dale Rosenthal (idm) Re: Origins of techno, house
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1997-01-21 18:02Dale RosenthalSorry guys! No flamebait here; but, I can't believe what I've been seeing about the origin
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(idm) Re: Origins of techno, house
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Sorry guys! No flamebait here; but, I can't believe what I've been seeing about the origins of these musical styles. I thought this had been discussed enough that it was open knowledge.
quoted 16 lines From: FreyGuy <kevfrey@evansville.net>> From: FreyGuy <kevfrey@evansville.net> > ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > > > > >R U kidding me??? Electronica seems to be more popular in Europe > > >these days... But don't forget where techno started. Derrick May > > >and Juan Atkins aren't European. > > > > sorry, never heard of Derrick May and Juan Atkins, when did they start > > making whatever music they made. > > Oooh, I don't know, let's say 1986. Boy, if you don't know who these > guys are, you really know nothing about the history of Techno. Don't > you understand the term "Detroit Techno?" There were two movements > going on at the time techno originated: Detroit and Germany. The two > had different flavors, both were techno. Both have had a big effect on > the music that IDMers are listening to today.
Close. Techno started in Detroit. BUT, it wasn't well-received at first and many early artists ended up in the Netherlands and Germany where the audience was more receptive. This is why many people (mistakenly) believe that techno started in Europe. (These are NOT widely disputed facts here. Read up on this!)
quoted 7 lines Intelligent Techno, Techno and Trance> > Intelligent Techno, Techno and Trance > > comes from Germany originally, House and Hardcore comes from the UK, > > There was _some_ intelligent techno I've heard out of germany, but a > whole lot of the _techno_ that originated from there was nosebleed > hardcore. House.. yeah, that was UK, but Hardcore was both UK and > Germany... ever heard the term "Rotterdam?"
No, no, no. House comes from Chicago. It started in a Chicago club called the Warehouse. Hence the name "house". (No, it did not start with the "House Party" series of movies! ;-) Now gabber? I think gabber came from the Netherlands; but, I am not sure about that. But, truth be told, techno and house were borne out of the industrial cities of the US midwest. If these facts seem a little dubious, look around and read some artist interviews. (The TEX/TAX booklets are probably available to most.) Peace and good frequency response, Dale