quoted 2 lines I know aaron likes alot of different music,>I know aaron likes alot of different music,
>he made alot of .mod music that you might loosely consider
hardcore.
quoted 1 line Hardcore as in Delta9, Tron, Industrial Strength...>Hardcore as in Delta9, Tron, Industrial Strength...
hardcore "techno" you mean. i assumed in this context you meant
that. normally when someone says hardcore i think of hardcore
punk.
quoted 3 lines In my experience, the hardcore scene was definitely interested>In my experience, the hardcore scene was definitely interested
>and influenced by 80's "industrial", but it wasn't culturally
>a continuation of it.
fair enough. i'd assumed it was a continuation of harsher forms of
techno that arose as ecstasy began to contain more
amphetemines (and even heroin). as a result, many techno clubs
got meaner and uglier, so did the music. that was what i heard
anyway. i wasn't at those clubs, so i don't know.
quoted 6 lines Which actually has been a great thing for the "hardsounds" scene>Which actually has been a great thing for the "hardsounds" scene
>in the past few years. The degree of mutation, and incorporation
>of different sounds, from breakbeats, to heavy processing, to
>more abstract structures and more melody - from people like
>doormouse, snares, tarmvred, emotional joystick, curtis chip...
>has really been its saving grace.
i actually dislike a lot of jungle and breakbeat and related stuff, but
the other genres it's influenced and splintered into have been
really interesting.
quoted 2 lines When it comes down to it, aaron is an individual,>When it comes down to it, aaron is an individual,
>and not really bound by any kind of limits of a scene.
the best way to be.
quoted 5 lines the thread has come up here and other places many>the thread has come up here and other places many
>times that people got into idm through aphex twin, remixes of nin
>particular and the come to daddy video. its funny how something
>thats really a minor blip in popular culture can have a big effect
>on a small subculture.
in addition to the aphex connection, i actually heard autechre's
'amber' on cassette(!) in a car back in '94 and really liked it but
forgot about it for the next 7 years.
quoted 1 line i'd also submit that autechre's beats and glitches have gotten a>> i'd also submit that autechre's beats and glitches have gotten a
lot
quoted 1 line harder-sounding over the years, the so-called>> harder-sounding over the years, the so-called
"number-crunching"
quoted 9 lines and glitchy sounds could very well appeal to the same types of>> and glitchy sounds could very well appeal to the same types of
>> ears that enjoy the clanking metal of einsturzende neubauten or
>> bring to mind a hyper-edited version of the electroacoustic
>> soundscapes of nurse with wound and organum.
>
>most definitely, in theory. i think alot of people into abstract/noisy
>beats
>have at the very least flirted with the stuff you mention, if not been
>big instrial heads in a previous life. although i find that younger
folks
quoted 1 line (i'm 26) very likely have never been exposed to it.>(i'm 26) very likely have never been exposed to it.
it depends on who you talk to. some stuff transcends age and
generations blur. X or Y? who gives a rats' arse.
quoted 1 line its funny, because in the world of the internet, antzen/hymen,>its funny, because in the world of the internet, antzen/hymen,
hands etc
quoted 1 line is the continuation of the industrial scene. but most if the self>is the continuation of the industrial scene. but most if the self
described
quoted 3 lines industrial kids are more into trancy ebm, or some ever-repeating>industrial kids are more into trancy ebm, or some ever-repeating
>early 90's flavor aggro. its sort of a time warp that never really
>progresses.
that's probably true. *someone* must be buying all those
apoptygma berzerk and wumpscut CDs. not i.
it also goes to show the narrowness of anyone who is a
"self-described" follower of a particular genre or subcluture and
little (if anything) else.
d.
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