it's an interesting point brought up here, and yes, those figures are rather
depressing as i think more people ought to be into what mike's releasing...
but then again, i can understand. IDM is all of what?? hardly ten years
old?? punk rock is 25 years old. i really feel that the genre has a lot of
room to grow, and needs a lot of time to do so. the genre has still barely
even broken into the states. i figure in another ten years, those figures
will triple without any problems. it's also a good point that there's
really only ONE big label that's mostly IDM (warp). after that there's a
huge gap in the amount of promotion/sales/etc... i think mu, cco, morr, and
schematic are probably the big ones after that... so warp presses 50,000 -
100,000 copies, and then it drops to 3,000 - 4,000 ?? give it time is all i
can say... we're just getting started.
mick.
acre.
----- Original Message -----
From: "h0l -" <h0l211@hotmail.com>
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 5:02 PM
Subject: [idm] grumpy warp tour curmudgeons + planet mu sales figures.
quoted 3 lines hey all,
> hey all,
>
> So, i guess that Warp US tour that was just announced isn't going to a
whole
quoted 6 lines bunch of places, for sure, but it's no wonder, if the replies on the list
> bunch of places, for sure, but it's no wonder, if the replies on the list
> are anything to go by.
>
> There's been, like, eight people loudly proclaiming 'i hate you why aren't
> you coming here by the way you were crap last time you came anyhow why do
> you bother?' How about 'thanks for bothering to put together a tour at
all,
quoted 15 lines Warp. we don't get many good European artist concerts in the States.'? And
> Warp. we don't get many good European artist concerts in the States.'? And
> no, I'm not in one of the cities it's going to.
>
> On a slightly different note, here's a paste of Mike Paradinas (Planet Mu
> label-boss)'s planet-mu.com messageboard post about how well Planet Mu CDs
> sell.
>
> --
>
> It's up to the artists, I don't want to publish exact sales figures if
> they'd rather keep it secret.
>
> But on average this year (last 12 months) cd albums have sold 800 copies.
> Our best seller in last 12 months was The Cosmic Forces Of Mu which sold
> 2217 copies worldwide. just over 12 months ago the Slag Boom remixes cd
did
quoted 3 lines very well at almost 3000 copies.
> very well at almost 3000 copies.
>
> The average earnings of a Planet Mu artist (from sales royalties, not
their
quoted 8 lines real jobs obviously) is £800 per album ($1190) which is the royalties on
> real jobs obviously) is £800 per album ($1190) which is the royalties on
> 1000 sales. But I usually give them an advance of more than that.
>
> --
>
> [end of paste]
>
> Quite honestly, since I'd consider Mu to be in the top three most
well-known
quoted 3 lines 'idm'-ish labels in the world right now, it's pretty tragic.
> 'idm'-ish labels in the world right now, it's pretty tragic.
>
> Internet piracy to blame? Well, there was an interesting article by Moby
(of
quoted 1 line all people!) on his personal site which talked about his views on that
> all people!) on his personal site which talked about his views on that
type
quoted 5 lines of thing (not Planet Mu specifically - just piracy!.)
> of thing (not Planet Mu specifically - just piracy!.)
>
> It basically went - even if there _are_ a lot of people who don't pirate
> music, sales will be depressed in any genre which has a lot of tech-savvy
> listeners, simply because a certain percentage of people who understand
how
quoted 5 lines to pirate will pirate.
> to pirate will pirate.
>
> I know the idm-scene right now is thriving on the Net and collaboration -
> just seems a shame that the best artists on Planet Mu like Venetian Snares
> sell about a fifth as many as some below-average skanky SoCal punk band,
or
quoted 18 lines what have you (pick another example if you're offended by that one!)
> what have you (pick another example if you're offended by that one!)
>
> ohwell, there's a solutionless rant if ever i saw one :)
>
> regards,
> h0l!
> [http://www.monotonik.com]
>
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