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Static Beats
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Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:00:23 -0700
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Re: [idm] SF music stores + Ogg Vorbis
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Yeah yeah yeah I know... Someone was bound to mention Open Mind. That's a dope record shop. The backbins are very nice as well. Not much in the way of IDM at *any* of the stores listed here recently though. So I guess we've veered way off topic as off course I know you can listen to *records* at record stores. These stores stock house, jungle, techno, trance etc. I guess my comments were more about general record stores, the RIAA, returns, exchanges, MP3's etc. Now were just talking about anything at all and stretching the point of the original posts though. It's all good though because this is actually something I'm very interested in and it's the first thread I've actually followed in quite a while. Regarding Ogg Vorbis - I think the problem is the 'time to market'. It is still in a Beta stage and a 1.0 version has yet to be released - currently it is a Release Candidate 2 (RC2). The lack of an officially stable version makes it fairly difficult for a mass migration to happen. I'm all for it though and I've heard the sound quality is much better than MP3. Important questions are this: Is it a streamable format (for eg. Shoutcast/Live365)? Does it compress to a comparable filesize as MP3's? Will the portable player makers (eg. Creative, RIO etc.) upgrade the Bios to support Ogg Vorbis (as they have with Windows Media)? Will it be much longer befor a stable release is out? Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com | Electronic Music For The Mind http://www.shimone.org | Pictures From The Soul ----- Original Message ----- From: William Samuels To: idm@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [idm] SF music stores Open Mind is always the first place I hit when I go to SF. I always find lots of stuff. The used section almost always has some gems in it. Tweekin' usually has a few things I'm looking for. The usually have lots of Chain Reaction, BC and Detroit releases. Amoeba has some great stuff too.. It's hard to not drop a ton of money when you go there.