on Mon, May 22, 2000, John rebutted:
quoted 6 lines I never mentioned Real Audio as AI uses full-length mp3's on the AI> I never mentioned Real Audio as AI uses full-length mp3's on the AI
> website. Though I see nothing wrong with the use of Real Audio it gives you
> the chance to listen and decide if you like the music or not.. all be it at
> a poor quality but still it's a poor excuse for boot-legging in-print
> music. Many people hear stuff on the radio and upon hearing and liking it
> buy it.. radio is of similar quality.
I had just mentioned RA as another option offered out there where you
could `listen-before-you-buy'. Good idea i suppose, but I don't only
listen to music while staring at my computer monitor. It's too
restrictive. What's the option there when I'm out in the yard digging in
the dirt and planting things?
quoted 2 lines So I take it you have never searched for or bought anything after hearing it> So I take it you have never searched for or bought anything after hearing it
> on the radio?
I don't listen to the radio. Maybe that's just me.
I pretty much only get into stuff while I'm in a positive situation
like hanging out at a friend's house or riding in a car with someone. Or
maybe a friend loans me a disc. Again, record shops to me do not reflect a
relaxed mood where I can actually enjoy anything I'm listening to.
quoted 8 lines I need a good long listen. Not one, but more like three to five good>> I need a good long listen. Not one, but more like three to five good
>>listens.
>
> This bit is the bit I find hypocritical... can you name other products you
> can borrow legally for a length of time to decide whether or not you
> actually like them enough to buy?? I mean come on imagine walking into a
> car dealer and saying "oh i'm not sure if I really like the car.. can I
> borrow it for 5 to 7 days to decide?".. it just doesn't happen.
Sure... some of the larger electronic shops will let you take home
things like video cameras or tvs. You charge the item on a credit card
(`risk free') and make a decision whether you like it or not. Of course,
they're counting on you being too lazy to return the stuff. I've not ever
done this myself, but that's what the commercials claim. maybe this is a
bad example.
What about software? I mean you can download a lot of sound editing
software nowadays with time limits put on how long they can be used before
you have to buy them (I you choose to do so).
Also, I've got small boxes of cereal in the mail before. I eat it in
my kitchen, I'm not rushed and am in a comfortable/familiar environment,
and then if I dig it I buy a box at the grocery store.
When I do go into record shops there are no v/a sampler cds available
for me to take home free. Why not? I'm thinking the labels are *counting*
on me not knowing what the music sounds like and buying their crap soley on
the allure of the sleeve art or what i read in a magazine review or label
advertisement somewhere. I don't care how many reviews i read on IDM, or
how many of my friends say "Chris, the new __________ album is great"...
music is meant to be heard, not described through words or pictures.
I wish there was a way to... um... let's say download an entire album,
but it's set up so it won't play for you any more after a thirty-day trial
period. And you are not able to copy it. If you want to hear it again,
then you have to pay for it. If you hate it and it sucks, then at least
you didn't buy music with a blindfold on (earplugs, rather). Is it too
much to ask for wanting to *know* what it is that you're paying for in
advance?
quoted 4 lines I hear this arguement all the time but then a quick poll of the mp3's most> I hear this arguement all the time but then a quick poll of the mp3's most
> wanted and traded by people on this list would show up it's never the crap
> that gets distributed but the quality stuff from high calibre artists such
> as Aphex Twin, BoC and Ae.
True, true. But that's unfortunately a lack of morals on their part.
I feel that some person(s) took the time to make the music, and then
other people took the time to lay out the packging, so that should be
rewarded obviously with me shelling out the bucks for the cd or whatever.
Making music, and making the sleeve is their job. I'm not out to rip folks
off.
quoted 2 lines Nor did I see it as one. May I ask did you buy Thug's Isolated Rhythm> Nor did I see it as one. May I ask did you buy Thug's Isolated Rhythm
> Chock? If so, what did you think of it?
Nope, not yet (but I will). Don't even have a cdr of it either. ;)
Sorry, i had to say that.
.`-).
christopher miller o o.'
evil@fdt.net ==
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ps. I apologize for the late response... too busy this week.
on: The Beach Boys _Smile_ (would *definitely buy this one if it was
ever actually released)
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