On Fri, 8/21/98 1:12 PM, Subconscious Geography wrote:
quoted 13 lines On Fri, 21 Aug 1998 07:24:45 +0100 (BST), you wrote:
>On Fri, 21 Aug 1998 07:24:45 +0100 (BST), you wrote:
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>>... its like the whole "Intelligent Dance" thing, I used to find it really
>>offensive when I'd be going down Speed and some of my friends, hardcore
>>junglers, would be going " she likes her jungle "intelligent", I hated that
>>term, 'intelligent' drum'n'bass as the term seemed to scornfully deride all
>>the other stuff which I was into as well.
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>and what's the stuff that has lasted most effectively? the so-called
>least intelligent jungle, the early hardcore rave, 4-hero etc, which
>will be listened to long after most of the intelligent bandwagon has
>passed by.. and i get MUCH MUCH more mileage from the golden amen era
>than i do from the countless dolphin/rhodes/coffee-book tracks.
Hmm... this brings a smile to my face simply because I believe that it's
true. A lot of what passes for jungle today is going to lose out because
there is nothing timeless to it IMHO (in spite of what Goldie says ;), it's
too spare and watered down to make an impact. When you listen to the old
hardcore, at least you know what it is, and there's actually a lot of
interesting musical stuff happening in much of it. Once the music made the
turn from spontaneity and experimentation (i.e. fun, like in a lot of
hardcore/darkness/early jungle) into dogmatic adherence to a sound for the
sake of formula or philosophy, jungle went into a tail-spin from which it has
yet to emerge. Hell, look at the dnb/breaks mailing-lists... hardly a week
goes by where someone cries out crucifixion-style, "ragga, ragga, why hast
thou forsaken me??" The LTJ Bukem camp's success (not that I'm trying to
single him out) seems to have killed ragga pretty effectively, and most 98-era
jungle sounds like a sort of skeletal parody of the jungle of four years
ago... no sick basslines, no interesting sample effects, no interesting
melodies... it's like the wasted body of a patient who's been in a coma for
three years... I'm not even sure why there is a bandwagon anymore, you'd think
the emptyness of the present-day formula would be forcing people away in
droves. Oh well.
Guess I'll go listen to my old Production House records,
Kreig
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