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siliconvortex
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Fri, 21 Aug 1998 17:07:51 GMT
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Re: (idm) Jedi Knights - The Flow Remix (Was:
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On Fri, 21 Aug 1998 07:24:45 +0100 (BST), you wrote:
quoted 3 lines it shows. i always hold out for a stronger house/detroit presence on>>it shows. i always hold out for a stronger house/detroit presence on >>idm, but alas it is not to be. for the open minded, it's not much of a >>leap from this kind of stuff to deep house and detroit.
quoted 4 lines I find it hard to believe that people could appreciate IDM stuff without>I find it hard to believe that people could appreciate IDM stuff without >appreciating its roots, surely if you're into one kind of music that has >evolved from these sources, it would make you insatiably hungry to hear it >all?
there are many more roots to today's sound really.. but i would argue house music to be the strongest of them all. maybe the beats are more electro influenced these days but it's house's repetitive nature that still inspires. i'm over-generalising so i apologise in advance, but it seems that most of the prejudice against house music comes from over the atlantic.. maybe it's because house had its roots in disco, and we all know how much of a hard time disco had in the 80's over there... and since then, house has become more and more like disco stylistically. it's surprising that so many 'free thinkers' have been influenced by the mainstream or maybe house music is just too popular, or just too simple, or just too accessible. there's a great big layer of cheesy crap on top, but that's the price you have to pay for its popularity. (remember the countless crap electro tunes? neither do i, thankfully) look underneath that layer and you will find many talented producers who are making very good music, which is much more subtle than most of today's idm crustiness
quoted 3 lines In the little book that came with TRans Europe Express, there was a big>In the little book that came with TRans Europe Express, there was a big >Rephlex article, with interviews on Aphex, Cylob, Mike Paradinas, the whole >Rephlex crew and they mentioned their top 10 records at the time:-
quoted 10 lines 1. DJ Pierre Box Energy (Trax Records)>1. DJ Pierre Box Energy (Trax Records) >2. State 808 with GErald Flow Coma (Creed Records) >3. HOuse addicts Come Together (FFrr) >4. Jack Frost 'Acid Rout' (Trax Records) >5. Farley 'Jackmaster Funk "the acid LIfe' (House REcords) >6. Mr Fingers, The Juice' (Trax REcords) >7. MDIII/Tyree 'Face the Nation' (Underground) >8. Bam Bam 'Where's your child' (Westbrook) >9. Sleazy D 'I've lost control' (Trax) >10. LIddel Townsell "The Groove' (Trax)
the 8 tracks i've heard out of these are all incredible! big respect to rephlex... but WHERE is Laurent X? his Machines EP beats all of these into a cocked hat
quoted 5 lines ... its like the whole "Intelligent Dance" thing, I used to find it really>... its like the whole "Intelligent Dance" thing, I used to find it really >offensive when I'd be going down Speed and some of my friends, hardcore >junglers, would be going " she likes her jungle "intelligent", I hated that >term, 'intelligent' drum'n'bass as the term seemed to scornfully deride all >the other stuff which I was into as well.
and what's the stuff that has lasted most effectively? the so-called least intelligent jungle, the early hardcore rave, 4-hero etc, which will be listened to long after most of the intelligent bandwagon has passed by.. and i get MUCH MUCH more mileage from the golden amen era than i do from the countless dolphin/rhodes/coffee-book tracks. <waves> Subconscious Geography http://www.sub-con-geo.demon.co.uk +/sale +/cdr