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Andregurov
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Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:55:59 EST
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Fwd: (idm) 76:14 and 'difficult' music
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In a message dated 98-04-02 18:05:04 EST, spacecake@earthling.net writes: << Anyway, the point of my >letter - perhaps there are no bad albums, just albums that haven't been >listened to enough to discover their secret pleasures (or have been >listened to way too much). hmmmm. i can kinda see where you're going with this... you're saying that if i listen to the SpiceGirls enough times i will eventually go deaf and might percieve the muted tones and muffled beats as 'wicked off-kilter experimental techno'... ...either that or get severe braindamage... :-) (actually i like the spicegirls, parts of 'wannabe' remind me of autechre's 'dael'... the beats and synth bass squiggle that is) anyway, i would disagree. bad is still bad and no amount of listening can make it good. >> Actually, I think the Spice Girls would fall into the "have listened to way too much" category. Even you admitted (I believe very sarcastically) that part of the Spice Girls was enjoyable. My point is that all music has high points that are rewarding. Hey, I liked "Spice up your Life" the first time I heard it. The last 28 times found the song on a descending trajectory of pleasure. Good in my terms does not mean "rewarding for all eternity" but instead "pleasurable in the limited run." For some albums, the span of goodness is very short (re: Spice Girls). For others, it takes me a while to discover the goodness (re: Roni Size's "new forms" which took me many exposures to savor). I think Jack Dangers (God O.D. forewarned!!) said it best on "subliminal sandwhich" - hear twice, listen the third time. For some albums, it takes several listens, something that I don't think anyone on this list would disagree with. For other albums, the pleasure is more immediate, and generally much more limited as a result. I promise to shut up on the subject now. James np: my own creation: silence and my ferret sniffing (a most immediately displeasing experience - maybe I should listen a few more times ???)