179,854Messages
9,130Senders
30Years
342mboxes

← back to listing · view thread

From:
Kelley Hackett
To:
drift wood ,
Date:
Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:07:33 -0500
Subject:
RE: (idm) Black music / White music
Msg-Id:
<397CA68ABF5AD111863C00805F0DDE980C4ACB@aba.iupui.edu>
Mbox:
idm.0002.gz
Setting the record Straight Drift, Thanks! All hell seems to break out when I comment! Hk! -----Original Message----- From: drift wood [mailto:sequential_circus@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 7:12 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (idm) Black music / White music The facts are that record companies, critics and the white record buying public have constantly discriminated against music performed by Black Artists. Why is it that the NME granted only a few paragraphs to review Marvin Gaye's What's Going On in 1972? Because white journalists at that time looked down on dance music. Why was it that Cilla Black's inferior versions of Dionne Warwick songs were far bigger hits than the originals? Because the Record Companies believed that a White Singer was more acceptable to record buyers than a black singer. I know that it's extremely simplistic to split dance music into Black/White because it's rarely like that in practice, you only have to look at the members of the Stax house band, Booker & the MG's, to see that, and of course Burt Bacharach, Dionne Warwick's producer/songwriter is another example. Basically, the European Classical Music tradition has always looked down upon music of other ethnic origins, believing itself somehow intellectually superior. This attitude still appears from time to time, even on this list. Matt. --- zachary <zim200@is7.nyu.edu> wrote:
quoted 37 lines unfortunately, racism is here to stay.> unfortunately, racism is here to stay. > > i don't think it's a question of white appropriation any longer due > to the > fact that these genre-related boundaries have dissolved so much since > some > of the first acts of theft on [white people's] parts (i.e., jazz)... > YET, > the funniest thing about it is, jazz itself was a fusion of the > african > rhythmic and improvisational sense *with* european tonalities. off > the bat, > i don't think someone could say jazz is purely black music- it's > african-american music to be sure, but why not just american? there > were > and are a lot of talented white players- for instance, look at miles > davis' > "birth of the cool" roster: those guys were ALL WHITE, and that was > in the > late forties (we hadn't even gotten to mclaughlin, corea, scofield, > etc. > yet!) > > with blues, rock, hip-hop, techno, house, whatever else, it's the > same > fucking issue and you know what? FUCK IT. > > zachary > zim200is7.nyu.edu > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org