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From:
Blipvert
To:
Anika & Johan
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Date:
Fri, 25 Oct 1996 10:12:00 -0500
Subject:
Re: (idm) Loops
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Anika & Johan wrote:
quoted 7 lines I think Autechre's music is very boring since most of their tracks are> > > I think Autechre's music is very boring since most of their tracks are > > nothing more than a bunch of loops smeared out forever. > > Don't want to say anything in perticular about Autechre but the fact is, a > track consisting of the same loop over and over again, more or less > unvaried, can be very good. It's called minimalism.
If you have a problem with loops, you are not only on the wrong list but you are probably going to be challenged by most contemporary music that you hear (hip-hop, rap, house in ALL of it's incarnations...). As someone that writes electronica music, I can tell you that loops are an essential pert of the writing proccess. Loops are present in even the most complex compositions. A lot of sequncers and drum machines that are prefered by the people who write the music discussed on this list require the composer to use loops as the fundamental structure of composing. Analog sequencers are boxes that spit out a stream or pulse of control signals that can be controlled by tempo or other simple control means and sent to analog synths that receive the signal and make it audible as voices that are pre-designed by the composer. Vintage and contemporary drum machines are usually programmed by design in a per measure fashion. Measures are later strung together and/or looped to form breaks are a rhythmic structure. The most simple loops can contain the most beautiful statements (this is meant to be a simple statement). John Cage was greatly influenced by zen buddhism and by presenting buddhist philosophy in simple forms. Steve Reich, Terry Riley and Phillip Glass all learned from this technique and worked with the evolution of the minimailist or simplicity in loops writing technique. It is not a simple task to write a simple loop that is a good groove or challenging and complex in the simplicity. A lot of "idm" is writen by writers for writers. The loop writing method has evolved to the point that a lot of loops suggest statements about loops or parody loops. Autechre has done a lot of this. These are not always the ideas that composers take with them to their sequencers, drum machines and computers but I think that they are an integral part of our musical vocabulary and are similar to word games or the arrangement and deconstruction of syntax. There are a lot of inside jokes that might not be appreciated by all listeners but I think that if people think of loops as being todays non-linear or abstract sound haikus or koans, they might develop greater appreciation for them. As a side note, I beleive that a lot of the interest in drum & bass comes from the fact that it is composed of broken loops that are then looped. It allows for redefinition and another petal on the lotus blossom- kind of ironic. Steve ************************************************************************** "Let's rock the planet, let's rock the planet- baby" Loops used