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HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones I don't know about. ie: Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 Echologist - Subterranean https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster Oh and this Submersion is p far out there https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely outside the "dub techno" tent

Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but have you checked out the Dubcon albums by cEvin Key and Ryan Moore? https://metropolisrecords.bandcamp.com/album/martian-dub-beacon https://metropolisrecords.bandcamp.com/album/ufo-pon-di-gullyside On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 6:34 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 24 lines HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums.

> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. > The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones I > don't know about. > ie: > Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations > https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 > > Echologist - Subterranean > > https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean > > & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business > https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster > > Oh and this Submersion is p far out there > https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused > > Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I > heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely > outside the "dub techno" tent > > > >

Topdown dialectic On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 7:44 PM Seth Branum <djmanos@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 36 lines Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but have you checked out the

> Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but have you checked out the > Dubcon albums by cEvin Key and Ryan Moore? > > https://metropolisrecords.bandcamp.com/album/martian-dub-beacon > https://metropolisrecords.bandcamp.com/album/ufo-pon-di-gullyside > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 6:34 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > >> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones >> I don't know about. >> ie: >> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >> >> Echologist - Subterranean >> >> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >> >> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >> >> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >> >> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I >> heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely >> outside the "dub techno" tent >> >> >> >> >> >> > >

Pole, but obviously in the Basic Channel camp. Convextion is pretty rad, and I. That vein as well. On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 7:57 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 40 lines Topdown dialectic

> Topdown dialectic > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 7:44 PM Seth Branum <djmanos@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but have you checked out the >> Dubcon albums by cEvin Key and Ryan Moore? >> >> https://metropolisrecords.bandcamp.com/album/martian-dub-beacon >> https://metropolisrecords.bandcamp.com/album/ufo-pon-di-gullyside >> >> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 6:34 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >>> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones >>> I don't know about. >>> ie: >>> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >>> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >>> >>> Echologist - Subterranean >>> >>> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >>> >>> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >>> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >>> >>> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >>> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >>> >>> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I >>> heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely >>> outside the "dub techno" tent >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> --

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seconding topdown dialectic. On Sat, Oct 2, 2021, 3:47 PM Stephen Ruiz <djstephenr@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 56 lines Pole, but obviously in the Basic Channel camp.

> Pole, but obviously in the Basic Channel camp. > > Convextion is pretty rad, and I. That vein as well. > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 7:57 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Topdown dialectic >> >> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 7:44 PM Seth Branum <djmanos@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but have you checked out >>> the Dubcon albums by cEvin Key and Ryan Moore? >>> >>> https://metropolisrecords.bandcamp.com/album/martian-dub-beacon >>> https://metropolisrecords.bandcamp.com/album/ufo-pon-di-gullyside >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 6:34 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >>>> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer >>>> ones I don't know about. >>>> ie: >>>> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >>>> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >>>> >>>> Echologist - Subterranean >>>> >>>> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >>>> >>>> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >>>> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >>>> >>>> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >>>> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >>>> >>>> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I >>>> heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely >>>> outside the "dub techno" tent >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- > Stephen R. :: Pixel Pusher / Sound Wrangler > --------------------------------------------------------------- > http://architectsandheroes.net/ > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > *"DJ Stephen R. (of Zygote) - Mix for OMAKASE on KUCI"* > https://soundcloud.com/goldcode/omakase265 > >

Hoavi, my fav right now. El sáb., 2 oct. 2021 22:09, Salvatore Mercatante < salvatore.mercatante@gmail.com> escribió:

quoted 60 lines seconding topdown dialectic.

> seconding topdown dialectic. > > On Sat, Oct 2, 2021, 3:47 PM Stephen Ruiz <djstephenr@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Pole, but obviously in the Basic Channel camp. >> >> Convextion is pretty rad, and I. That vein as well. >> >> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 7:57 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Topdown dialectic >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 7:44 PM Seth Branum <djmanos@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but have you checked out >>>> the Dubcon albums by cEvin Key and Ryan Moore? >>>> >>>> https://metropolisrecords.bandcamp.com/album/martian-dub-beacon >>>> https://metropolisrecords.bandcamp.com/album/ufo-pon-di-gullyside >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 6:34 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >>>>> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer >>>>> ones I don't know about. >>>>> ie: >>>>> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >>>>> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >>>>> >>>>> Echologist - Subterranean >>>>> >>>>> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >>>>> >>>>> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >>>>> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >>>>> >>>>> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >>>>> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >>>>> >>>>> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I >>>>> heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely >>>>> outside the "dub techno" tent >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >> Stephen R. :: Pixel Pusher / Sound Wrangler >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> http://architectsandheroes.net/ >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> *"DJ Stephen R. (of Zygote) - Mix for OMAKASE on KUCI"* >> https://soundcloud.com/goldcode/omakase265 >> >>

hell yes, I had that /\\09 topdown tape but neglected to check back in later. Having rectified that: the two LPs are sounding great and v much unconventional dub techno. i would call that Cevin Key stuff "dub" more than "dub techno" purely bc it's cribbing directly from Tubby Scientist Scratch et al more than anybody from Europe. Pole has always felt like his own whole thing to me.. the 123R classic records at least have so much in common with Rhythm & Sound and yet... all the Techno has been excised and it makes for such a different listening experience. I must say "2" remains one of those handful of records that I cannot seem to wear out no matter how much I play it. Every summer, as soon as Baltimore gets dumb hot, I must play 2 loud from a car. All that said, the Pole album that came out last year is actually the most Techno thing I think he's done and it rules. Going to go check out Hoavi rn I don't think I've ever heard it. -rk On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 5:43 PM Albert Salinas - Lapsus <asalinas@lapsus.cat> wrote:

quoted 66 lines Hoavi, my fav right now.

> Hoavi, my fav right now. > > El sáb., 2 oct. 2021 22:09, Salvatore Mercatante < > salvatore.mercatante@gmail.com> escribió: > >> seconding topdown dialectic. >> >> On Sat, Oct 2, 2021, 3:47 PM Stephen Ruiz <djstephenr@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Pole, but obviously in the Basic Channel camp. >>> >>> Convextion is pretty rad, and I. That vein as well. >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 7:57 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Topdown dialectic >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 7:44 PM Seth Branum <djmanos@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but have you checked out >>>>> the Dubcon albums by cEvin Key and Ryan Moore? >>>>> >>>>> https://metropolisrecords.bandcamp.com/album/martian-dub-beacon >>>>> https://metropolisrecords.bandcamp.com/album/ufo-pon-di-gullyside >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 6:34 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >>>>>> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer >>>>>> ones I don't know about. >>>>>> ie: >>>>>> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >>>>>> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >>>>>> >>>>>> Echologist - Subterranean >>>>>> >>>>>> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >>>>>> >>>>>> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >>>>>> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >>>>>> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >>>>>> >>>>>> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I >>>>>> heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely >>>>>> outside the "dub techno" tent >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>> Stephen R. :: Pixel Pusher / Sound Wrangler >>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>> http://architectsandheroes.net/ >>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> *"DJ Stephen R. (of Zygote) - Mix for OMAKASE on KUCI"* >>> https://soundcloud.com/goldcode/omakase265 >>> >>>

Hi Rjyan, Not exactly on the Basic Channel family (even though Wolfgang Voigt was very influenced by Moritz Von Oswald), but GAS always does it for me. The last album from 2018 ("Rausch") is really dark and haunting. On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 2:34 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 24 lines HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums.

> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. > The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones I > don't know about. > ie: > Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations > https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 > > Echologist - Subterranean > > https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean > > & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business > https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster > > Oh and this Submersion is p far out there > https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused > > Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I > heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely > outside the "dub techno" tent > > > >

It's good news that mr Voight has resumed releasing GAS On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 10:42 AM Luis Marta <luis.marta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 32 lines Hi Rjyan,

> Hi Rjyan, > > Not exactly on the Basic Channel family (even though Wolfgang Voigt was > very influenced by Moritz Von Oswald), but GAS always does it for me. The > last album from 2018 ("Rausch") is really dark and haunting. > > On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 2:34 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > >> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones >> I don't know about. >> ie: >> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >> >> Echologist - Subterranean >> >> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >> >> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >> >> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >> >> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I >> heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely >> outside the "dub techno" tent >> >> >> >>

Hey, Ever heard Porter Ricks ? Their album Biokinetics is a true landmark. Cheers, Le lun. 4 oct. 2021 18:54, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> a écrit :

quoted 36 lines It's good news that mr Voight has resumed releasing GAS

> It's good news that mr Voight has resumed releasing GAS > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 10:42 AM Luis Marta <luis.marta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Rjyan, >> >> Not exactly on the Basic Channel family (even though Wolfgang Voigt was >> very influenced by Moritz Von Oswald), but GAS always does it for me. The >> last album from 2018 ("Rausch") is really dark and haunting. >> >> On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 2:34 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >>> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones >>> I don't know about. >>> ie: >>> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >>> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >>> >>> Echologist - Subterranean >>> >>> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >>> >>> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >>> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >>> >>> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >>> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >>> >>> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I >>> heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely >>> outside the "dub techno" tent >>> >>> >>> >>>

Just received an announcement that a new GAS album " DER LANGE MARSCH" is due in the beginning of December, on Kompakt. Great news :) Luis Marta. On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:54 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 36 lines It's good news that mr Voight has resumed releasing GAS

> It's good news that mr Voight has resumed releasing GAS > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 10:42 AM Luis Marta <luis.marta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Rjyan, >> >> Not exactly on the Basic Channel family (even though Wolfgang Voigt was >> very influenced by Moritz Von Oswald), but GAS always does it for me. The >> last album from 2018 ("Rausch") is really dark and haunting. >> >> On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 2:34 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >>> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones >>> I don't know about. >>> ie: >>> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >>> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >>> >>> Echologist - Subterranean >>> >>> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >>> >>> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >>> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >>> >>> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >>> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >>> >>> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I >>> heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely >>> outside the "dub techno" tent >>> >>> >>> >>>

Just heard this track and remembered this thread. https://youtu.be/aMi2EV7lFaQ Mem

quoted 36 lines On 7 Oct 2021, at 11:33, Luis Marta <luis.marta@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7 Oct 2021, at 11:33, Luis Marta <luis.marta@gmail.com> wrote: > >  > Just received an announcement that a new GAS album " DER LANGE MARSCH" is due in the beginning of December, on Kompakt. > Great news :) > > Luis Marta. > >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:54 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> It's good news that mr Voight has resumed releasing GAS >> >>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 10:42 AM Luis Marta <luis.marta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi Rjyan, >>> >>> Not exactly on the Basic Channel family (even though Wolfgang Voigt was very influenced by Moritz Von Oswald), but GAS always does it for me. The last album from 2018 ("Rausch") is really dark and haunting. >>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 2:34 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >>>> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones I don't know about. >>>> ie: >>>> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >>>> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >>>> >>>> Echologist - Subterranean >>>> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >>>> >>>> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >>>> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >>>> >>>> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >>>> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >>>> >>>> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely outside the "dub techno" tent >>>> >>>> >>>>

I heard this one a couple week or so ago. https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/qoQnpTSRpq7fiLQX6 It seems just a barebones sketch on the artist’s SC, but it kinda struck me as the meeting of dub techno and breaks / dnb. I can’t recall ever having heard something mashing things together like that before Granted, this is a very distilled definition of dub techno as a minor chord stab - In any case I thought it an interesting and refreshing mix, however brief. A very subtle inflection point but would love to hear more stuff like this with all a bit more routing and processing chain grit On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 at 12:14 am, Memjutsu <mehmet.ismail85@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 54 lines Just heard this track and remembered this thread.

> Just heard this track and remembered this thread. > > https://youtu.be/aMi2EV7lFaQ > > Mem > > On 7 Oct 2021, at 11:33, Luis Marta <luis.marta@gmail.com> wrote: > >  > > Just received an announcement that a new GAS album " DER LANGE MARSCH" is > due in the beginning of December, on Kompakt. > Great news :) > > Luis Marta. > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:54 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It's good news that mr Voight has resumed releasing GAS >> >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 10:42 AM Luis Marta <luis.marta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Rjyan, >>> >>> Not exactly on the Basic Channel family (even though Wolfgang Voigt was >>> very influenced by Moritz Von Oswald), but GAS always does it for me. The >>> last album from 2018 ("Rausch") is really dark and haunting. >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 2:34 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >>>> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer >>>> ones I don't know about. >>>> ie: >>>> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >>>> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >>>> >>>> Echologist - Subterranean >>>> >>>> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >>>> >>>> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >>>> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >>>> >>>> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >>>> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >>>> >>>> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I >>>> heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely >>>> outside the "dub techno" tent >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --

MT// mattleaf.studio

somewhat of a self promo: this release on my label has some touches of dub but its mostly a ambient/minimal affair. nonetheless i think its worth checking out! https://lemonyrecords.bandcamp.com/album/a-way-out On 10/30/2021 6:44 PM, Thorsten Sideboard wrote:

quoted 101 lines I learned of this one earlier in this thread -

> I learned of this one earlier in this thread - > https://peakoil.bandcamp.com/album/invariant > > ^ I've been returning to it a lot - super good! > > Another release, straying from the dubtechno side, which I've found > myself returning to over time is this amazing Romsets release: > https://romsets.bandcamp.com/album/faultys > > sounds like a mix between early Twerk material and Actress squashed > house. > > On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 1:40 PM Matt Tierney > <matthewdtierney@gmail.com> wrote: > > I heard this one a couple week or so ago. > > https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/qoQnpTSRpq7fiLQX6 > > It seems just a barebones sketch on the artist’s SC, but it kinda > struck me as the meeting of dub techno and breaks / dnb. I can’t > recall ever having heard something mashing things together like > that before > > Granted, this is a very distilled definition of dub techno as a > minor chord stab - In any case I thought it an interesting and > refreshing mix, however brief. > > A very subtle inflection point but would love to hear more stuff > like this with all a bit more routing and processing chain grit > > > > > > On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 at 12:14 am, Memjutsu > <mehmet.ismail85@gmail.com> wrote: > > Just heard this track and remembered this thread. > > https://youtu.be/aMi2EV7lFaQ > > Mem > >> On 7 Oct 2021, at 11:33, Luis Marta <luis.marta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>  >> Just received an announcement that a new GAS album " DER >> LANGE MARSCH" is due in the beginning of December, on Kompakt. >> Great news :) >> >> Luis Marta. >> >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:54 PM Rjyan Kidwell >> <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It's good news that mr Voight has resumed releasing GAS >> >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 10:42 AM Luis Marta >> <luis.marta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Rjyan, >> >> Not exactly on the Basic Channel family (even though >> Wolfgang Voigt was very influenced by  Moritz Von >> Oswald), but GAS always does it for me. The last >> album from 2018 ("Rausch") is really dark and haunting. >> >> On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 2:34 AM Rjyan Kidwell >> <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno >> albums. >> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there >> must be some newer ones I don't know about. >> ie: >> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >> >> Echologist - Subterranean >> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >> >> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ >> business >> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >> >> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >> >> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the >> center, what haven't I heard that goes real close >> to the edge there without going completely >> outside the "dub techno" tent >> >> >> > -- > MT// > > mattleaf.studio <http://mattleaf.studio> >

-- |>- lempamo -<| lempamo.glitch.me lempamo.bandcamp.com lemonyrecords.bandcamp.com

toot toot own horn coming through https://blamstrain.bandcamp.com/album/seventh-world <https://blamstrain.bandcamp.com/album/seventh-world>

quoted 21 lines On 2 Oct 2021, at 03:34, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2 Oct 2021, at 03:34, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > > HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. > The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones I don't know about. > ie: > Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations > https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 <https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011> > > Echologist - Subterranean > https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean <https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean> > > & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business > https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster <https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster> > > Oh and this Submersion is p far out there > https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused <https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused> > > Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely outside the "dub techno" tent > > >

Aw yeah now we're talking. It might be time now to open this thread up to any dub techno, conventional or otherwise, made by list members On Wed, Oct 6, 2021, 8:49 AM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 33 lines toot toot own horn coming through

> toot toot own horn coming through > > https://blamstrain.bandcamp.com/album/seventh-world > > > > On 2 Oct 2021, at 03:34, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > > HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. > The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones I > don't know about. > ie: > Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations > https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 > > Echologist - Subterranean > > https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean > > & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business > https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster > > Oh and this Submersion is p far out there > https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused > > Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I > heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely > outside the "dub techno" tent > > > > >

I think I shared this before but a very cool, loose Basic Channel influenced stuff: https://wahwahwino.bandcamp.com/track/damericana Also I think about this track all the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puchlus73BA&t=1s On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 7:51 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 40 lines Aw yeah now we're talking.

> Aw yeah now we're talking. > > It might be time now to open this thread up to any dub techno, > conventional or otherwise, made by list members > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2021, 8:49 AM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote: > >> toot toot own horn coming through >> >> https://blamstrain.bandcamp.com/album/seventh-world >> >> >> >> On 2 Oct 2021, at 03:34, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones >> I don't know about. >> ie: >> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >> >> Echologist - Subterranean >> >> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >> >> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >> >> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >> >> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I >> heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely >> outside the "dub techno" tent >> >> >> >> >>

that one is good but this is the one I meant! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akcg8HHLUo4&t=32s On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:19 AM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 49 lines I think I shared this before but a very cool, loose Basic Channel

> I think I shared this before but a very cool, loose Basic Channel > influenced stuff: > https://wahwahwino.bandcamp.com/track/damericana > > Also I think about this track all the time: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puchlus73BA&t=1s > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 7:51 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Aw yeah now we're talking. >> >> It might be time now to open this thread up to any dub techno, >> conventional or otherwise, made by list members >> >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021, 8:49 AM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> toot toot own horn coming through >>> >>> https://blamstrain.bandcamp.com/album/seventh-world >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2 Oct 2021, at 03:34, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >>> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones >>> I don't know about. >>> ie: >>> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >>> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >>> >>> Echologist - Subterranean >>> >>> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >>> >>> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >>> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >>> >>> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >>> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >>> >>> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I >>> heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely >>> outside the "dub techno" tent >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>

MonoPeninsula does really dope stuff: https://monopeninsula.bandcamp.com/ Sent from my iPhone

quoted 43 lines On Oct 6, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 6, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote: > >  > I think I shared this before but a very cool, loose Basic Channel influenced stuff: > https://wahwahwino.bandcamp.com/track/damericana > > Also I think about this track all the time: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puchlus73BA&t=1s > >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 7:51 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> Aw yeah now we're talking. >> >> It might be time now to open this thread up to any dub techno, conventional or otherwise, made by list members >> >>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021, 8:49 AM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote: >>> toot toot own horn coming through >>> >>> https://blamstrain.bandcamp.com/album/seventh-world >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 2 Oct 2021, at 03:34, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >>>> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones I don't know about. >>>> ie: >>>> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >>>> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >>>> >>>> Echologist - Subterranean >>>> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >>>> >>>> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >>>> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >>>> >>>> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >>>> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >>>> >>>> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely outside the "dub techno" tent >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>

Kit Clayton https://www.youtube.com/playlist?playnext=1&list=PLxaTNLbOChz1s0Rjwdl40Y9zXJjYrlEU4&feature=gws_kp_artist From: Charles Terhune <crtdot@icloud.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 1:24 PM To: Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> Cc: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>; Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com>; IDM List <idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: unconventional dub techno MonoPeninsula does really dope stuff: https://monopeninsula.bandcamp.com/<https://monopeninsula.bandcamp.com/album/archangelsk-revisited> Sent from my iPhone On Oct 6, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com<mailto:christaylor415@gmail.com>> wrote:  I think I shared this before but a very cool, loose Basic Channel influenced stuff: https://wahwahwino.bandcamp.com/track/damericana Also I think about this track all the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puchlus73BA&t=1s On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 7:51 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com<mailto:cexwell@gmail.com>> wrote: Aw yeah now we're talking. It might be time now to open this thread up to any dub techno, conventional or otherwise, made by list members On Wed, Oct 6, 2021, 8:49 AM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com<mailto:hietala@gmail.com>> wrote: toot toot own horn coming through https://blamstrain.bandcamp.com/album/seventh-world On 2 Oct 2021, at 03:34, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com<mailto:cexwell@gmail.com>> wrote: HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones I don't know about. ie: Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 Echologist - Subterranean https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster Oh and this Submersion is p far out there https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely outside the "dub techno" tent

Richard Fearless

quoted 59 lines Am 06.10.2021 um 20:31 schrieb Gulino, John (jg7ed) <jg7ed@virginia.edu>:

> Am 06.10.2021 um 20:31 schrieb Gulino, John (jg7ed) <jg7ed@virginia.edu>: > > Kit Clayton > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?playnext=1&list=PLxaTNLbOChz1s0Rjwdl40Y9zXJjYrlEU4&feature=gws_kp_artist <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?playnext=1&list=PLxaTNLbOChz1s0Rjwdl40Y9zXJjYrlEU4&feature=gws_kp_artist> > > > > From: Charles Terhune <crtdot@icloud.com <mailto:crtdot@icloud.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 1:24 PM > To: Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com <mailto:christaylor415@gmail.com>> > Cc: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com <mailto:cexwell@gmail.com>>; Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com <mailto:hietala@gmail.com>>; IDM List <idm@hyperreal.org <mailto:idm@hyperreal.org>> > Subject: Re: unconventional dub techno > > MonoPeninsula does really dope stuff: > > https://monopeninsula.bandcamp.com/ <https://monopeninsula.bandcamp.com/album/archangelsk-revisited> > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 6, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com <mailto:christaylor415@gmail.com>> wrote: > >  > I think I shared this before but a very cool, loose Basic Channel influenced stuff: > https://wahwahwino.bandcamp.com/track/damericana <https://wahwahwino.bandcamp.com/track/damericana> > > Also I think about this track all the time: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puchlus73BA&t=1s <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puchlus73BA&t=1s> > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 7:51 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com <mailto:cexwell@gmail.com>> wrote: > Aw yeah now we're talking. > > It might be time now to open this thread up to any dub techno, conventional or otherwise, made by list members > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2021, 8:49 AM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com <mailto:hietala@gmail.com>> wrote: > toot toot own horn coming through > > https://blamstrain.bandcamp.com/album/seventh-world <https://blamstrain.bandcamp.com/album/seventh-world> > > > > > On 2 Oct 2021, at 03:34, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com <mailto:cexwell@gmail.com>> wrote: > > HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. > The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones I don't know about. > ie: > Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations > https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 <https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011> > > Echologist - Subterranean > https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean <https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean> > > & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business > https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster <https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster> > > Oh and this Submersion is p far out there > https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused <https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused> > > Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely outside the "dub techno" tent

The dub techno EP by Twerk that Juho put out years ago is stellar. https://www.discogs.com/master/860521-Twerk-Otter On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 11:32 AM raf <ralf@mfoc.de> wrote:

quoted 78 lines Richard Fearless

> Richard Fearless > > > > Am 06.10.2021 um 20:31 schrieb Gulino, John (jg7ed) <jg7ed@virginia.edu>: > > Kit Clayton > > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?playnext=1&list=PLxaTNLbOChz1s0Rjwdl40Y9zXJjYrlEU4&feature=gws_kp_artist > > > > *From:* Charles Terhune <crtdot@icloud.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 6, 2021 1:24 PM > *To:* Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> > *Cc:* Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>; Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com>; > IDM List <idm@hyperreal.org> > *Subject:* Re: unconventional dub techno > > MonoPeninsula does really dope stuff: > > > https://monopeninsula.bandcamp.com/ > <https://monopeninsula.bandcamp.com/album/archangelsk-revisited> > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 6, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote: > >  > I think I shared this before but a very cool, loose Basic Channel > influenced stuff: > https://wahwahwino.bandcamp.com/track/damericana > > Also I think about this track all the time: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puchlus73BA&t=1s > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 7:51 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > > Aw yeah now we're talking. > > It might be time now to open this thread up to any dub techno, > conventional or otherwise, made by list members > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2021, 8:49 AM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote: > > toot toot own horn coming through > > https://blamstrain.bandcamp.com/album/seventh-world > > > > > On 2 Oct 2021, at 03:34, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > > HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. > The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones I > don't know about. > ie: > Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations > https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 > > Echologist - Subterranean > > https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean > > & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business > https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster > > Oh and this Submersion is p far out there > https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused > > Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I > heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely > outside the "dub techno" tent > > >

Mouse on Mars-- Froschroom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oU7wzzvYrU On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 12:52 PM Seth Branum <djmanos@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 86 lines The dub techno EP by Twerk that Juho put out years ago is stellar.

> The dub techno EP by Twerk that Juho put out years ago is stellar. > > https://www.discogs.com/master/860521-Twerk-Otter > > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 11:32 AM raf <ralf@mfoc.de> wrote: > >> Richard Fearless >> >> >> >> Am 06.10.2021 um 20:31 schrieb Gulino, John (jg7ed) <jg7ed@virginia.edu>: >> >> Kit Clayton >> >> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?playnext=1&list=PLxaTNLbOChz1s0Rjwdl40Y9zXJjYrlEU4&feature=gws_kp_artist >> >> >> >> *From:* Charles Terhune <crtdot@icloud.com> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 6, 2021 1:24 PM >> *To:* Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> >> *Cc:* Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>; Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com>; >> IDM List <idm@hyperreal.org> >> *Subject:* Re: unconventional dub techno >> >> MonoPeninsula does really dope stuff: >> >> >> https://monopeninsula.bandcamp.com/ >> <https://monopeninsula.bandcamp.com/album/archangelsk-revisited> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Oct 6, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>  >> I think I shared this before but a very cool, loose Basic Channel >> influenced stuff: >> https://wahwahwino.bandcamp.com/track/damericana >> >> Also I think about this track all the time: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puchlus73BA&t=1s >> >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 7:51 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Aw yeah now we're talking. >> >> It might be time now to open this thread up to any dub techno, >> conventional or otherwise, made by list members >> >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021, 8:49 AM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> toot toot own horn coming through >> >> https://blamstrain.bandcamp.com/album/seventh-world >> >> >> >> >> On 2 Oct 2021, at 03:34, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. >> The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones >> I don't know about. >> ie: >> Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations >> https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 >> >> Echologist - Subterranean >> >> https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean >> >> & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business >> https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster >> >> Oh and this Submersion is p far out there >> https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused >> >> Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I >> heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely >> outside the "dub techno" tent >> >> >>

-- 22tape/Jared Dunne listen <https://22tape.bandcamp.com/>

Sense- Grey Sky Dub https://odrexmusic.bandcamp.com/album/grey-sky-dub?from=fanpub_fnb Yeah, that Sense from 'Learning To Be'. On Fri, Oct 1, 2021, 6:34 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 24 lines HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums.

> HEY What are the most unconventional dub techno albums. > The ones i know are pretty old now, surely there must be some newer ones I > don't know about. > ie: > Mokira - Time-Axis Manipulations > https://repeatle.bandcamp.com/album/time-axis-manipulation-2011 > > Echologist - Subterranean > > https://brendonmoellerechologistbeatpharmacy.bandcamp.com/album/subterranean > > & of course all that early Vladislav/Luomo/Sasu++ business > https://vladislavdelay.bandcamp.com/album/multila-2020-remaster > > Oh and this Submersion is p far out there > https://spaceofvariants.bandcamp.com/album/sv-17-submersion-suffused > > Put another way: assuming Basic Channel is the center, what haven't I > heard that goes real close to the edge there without going completely > outside the "dub techno" tent > > > >