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chthonic
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Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:45:28 -0700
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Re: [idm] idm/harsh electro/noise/industrial crossover
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quoted 1 line I think its kind of interesting how Venetian Snares came to be part>I think its kind of interesting how Venetian Snares came to be part
of
quoted 2 lines "IDM".>"IDM". >Because really before snares's stuff came out on planet-mu, not
much
quoted 1 line hardcore was really included in the realm of "IDM". Snares was>hardcore was really included in the realm of "IDM". Snares was
just
quoted 1 line some new variant from the hardcore scene.>some new variant from the hardcore scene.
i don't know what influences VS actually has, but to me and the people i've conversed with, they're regarded as being in the "distorted electro" camp that could be considered the next generation of industrial dance, centered around labels like ant-zen, hymen, spectrew, and hands. i'm guessing these artists are people who grew up liking nitzer ebb, meat beat manifesto, and skinny puppy's 'vivisect vi' as much as they do throbbing gristle and merzbow.
quoted 2 lines But now, alot of kids will>But now, alot of kids will >say they like idm..."you know, like venetian snares, aphex,
autechre".
quoted 1 line Its just an interesting shift.>Its just an interesting shift.
with aphex twin's "come to daddy" and his remixes for NIN and a few others, james attracted the attention of the industrial/ebm crowd i mentioned above. he certainly caught my attention. prior to the chris cunningham video, my impression of AT was a stylised logo which said "slick soulless cold electronic" and the knowledge that everyone and his brother was namedropping 'ambient v2'. james has also dabbled in hardcore-ish, gabba-influenced insanity, and some people just like their music hard-sounding, whatever form that may take. i'd also submit that autechre's beats and glitches have gotten a lot harder-sounding over the years, the so-called "number-crunching" and glitchy sounds could very well appeal to the same types of ears that enjoy the clanking metal of einsturzende neubauten or bring to mind a hyper-edited version of the electroacoustic soundscapes of nurse with wound and organum. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org