Andy
Don't unsubscribe.
"Life" is a rollercoaster ride of emotions, love and
loss.
What can/should unite us ALL is our love of IDM and
the arts.
Even if there is dissenting opinions voiced on this
list, it is only a sign of people voicing their
concerns from what "they believe."
We ALL believe IDM is wonderful.
So, lets take it from there.
Peace
--- Andrea Bardelli Danieli <abardelli@freesurf.ch>
wrote:
quoted 113 lines I thought I would refrain from commenting on what
>
> I thought I would refrain from commenting on what
> happened on my loved idm
> list music list, but people have gone too far for me
> not to react, sorry.
>
> As Brian said, more than 50% seems to be from the US
> here, so there is much
> concern. Think we haven't noticed this, in the past?
> Of course this list is
> mostly made of people in the US. I remember comments
> about "we invented the
> internet", and "let's bomb the fuckers" in the past,
> with all the nineties
> wars that made many a civilian victim.
>
> Before you start flinging rude nationalistic
> comments at me, or consider
> unsbscribing me from the list, think about what Rob
> Salit just noted:
>
> >I just wanted to make a point that this tragedy
> doesn't only affect us here
> >in the US. When an attack like this occurs, all of
> the countries that
> >support us in NATO are involved. And it is also a
> point to say that if it
> >can happen here, it can happen anywhere, anytime.
> The last place that I'd
> >want to be right now is in any country that could
> be related to the attacks.
> >We're gonna launch some serious action. This is
> far from over.
>
> We in Europe have always had to live with the
> consequences of the
> aggressive US policies in the world. This time, it
> hit America first, but
> as the planes will inevitably take off from europe
> to bomb the middle east,
> we will take most of the aggro, as usual (tension in
> airports and city
> centres, military surveillance heightened in
> sensitive areas, etc., and
> what is more, a clear and very very likely threat of
> military retaliation
> from the middle east, because the US are far, but
> europe is nice and nearer
> to bomb and attack). I am Italian, our country is
> right in the middle of
> the Mediterranean (I know this doesn't mean a lot to
> people in the US, look
> it up in a map, and you'll understand) and Italy is
> FULL of American and
> NATO bases. This is where planes take off when they
> go bombing Iraq, Serbia
> etc. This is where many nuclear bombs from the
> former eastern countries
> were pointed at. And it has already happened in the
> past that we were
> attacked from our geographic neighbours (Libya, for
> instance). What's more,
> Italy has a horrendous history of civilian tragedies
> of which the US were
> directly responsible of: civilian planes being shot
> down "by mistake" while
> trying to shoot down libyan planes at night (1980),
> people being killed by
> US planes that were "playing" in alpine valleys
> (1999), bombs on trains, in
> squares, banks etc., for which justice courts found
> out the CIA to be
> partly responsible, etc etc.
> And we are ALLIES. What a fucking laugh. Now we
> should also put up with
> Bush, it seems. You gotta be kidding.
>
> Believe me, these days are tragic ones for us all,
> the consequences of what
> happened will be borne by all of us, but the
> europeans will take much of
> the aggro though. As usual.
>
> Well this time I am writing because what I least
> want on my beloved music
> list is the nationalistic reactions I have seen.
> They are totally out of
> place, and they can only irritate people in Europe,
> who have borne MOST of
> the tragedies in the western world (but not as much
> as the 3rd world...). A
> point of view like Mr.Hackett's isn't even
> considered on the list, it just
> gets "bombed" like American reactionaries like to
> bomb anything that moves
> and doesn't say "I love the US". Think twice before
> you shoot, it's us you
> are shooting.
>
> Now you can unsubscribe me Mr Rachielles, I actually
> felt like
> unsubscribing myself even before (during the Serbian
> war, for instance),
> but I have always resisted. Since this
> WTC/NYC/Pentagon thing is just the
> start of a major military and political crisis, I
> hate to think what this
> list will become.
>
> Sorry,
>
> Andy
>
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