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1994-06-11 01:39CAPED CRUSADERjon writes: >>>>> this is a ridiculous relativistic pre-judgement. i'm not a big orbital f

From:: CAPED CRUSADER <SO94014@GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU>
To:: <idm@techno.Stanford.EDU>
Date:: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 21:39:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Orbital=jungle jungle?

jon writes:

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>>>>>

this is a ridiculous relativistic pre-judgement. i'm not a big orbital fan, but seeing as they've never done a breakbeat track yet, how can you say that "there are slews of breakbeat artists who are a lot better?" <<<<< jon, from some of your IDM times i'd say you are a huge orbital fan... or at least it seems that way...but beside the point! 1. orbital sticks to a lot of loops 2. loops aren't that great. 3. if orbital loops their breakz at well, it will sound a lot like moby's attempts at hardcore...weak and boring and uninteresting. 4. there are great jungle artists out now that top anything orbital has ever done (IMO)...i don 't think orbital could ever top omni trio and others. why not pick it up and give it a listen yourself?? ... i think orbital are another example of overhype. every orbital album that comes out is praised to the sky by NME, meloday maker, AP, oh everyone does it. why don't breakbeat artists get this sort of praise as well? some of the music is as good or better (better IMO)... i'm still trying to figure out why when a brilliant album comes out it gets no coverage at all if it has breaks. well. go figure. we'll wait and see when it comes out, but your statement holds true of previous statements that orbital will "elevate breakbeat"... (\/\/)

1994-06-11 04:23djkcjungle doesn't get publicity as much because it *IS* hardcore! We're talking the MASSES ri

From:: djkc <djkc@blkbox.COM>
To:: CAPED CRUSADER <SO94014@gsvms2.cc.gasou.edu>
Cc:: <idm@techno.Stanford.EDU>
Date:: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 23:23:32 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: Orbital=jungle jungle?
Reply to:: Orbital=jungle jungle?

jungle doesn't get publicity as much because it *IS* hardcore! We're talking the MASSES right? Like bell-curves and all? it's an extreme form of music. Do I have to explain why it is extreme? Well, it starts with body rhythms...then there is money, promotion, exposure, changing scenes, changing the charts, what's considered pop, what turns advertising agencies on, what brings people to the club so they will spend money on cover and alcohol, etc,etc... It's a very complicated thing. Just shut the hell up and be happy that you have something to enjoy. :) -kc

1994-06-13 17:10Jon DrukmanRE>Orbital=jungle jungle? >jon, from some of your IDM times i'd say you are a huge orbital

From:: Jon Drukman <jon@opcode.com>
To:: IDM <idm@techno.Stanford.EDU>
Date:: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 10:10:03 PDT
Subject:: Re: Orbital=jungle jungle?

RE>Orbital=jungle jungle?

quoted 2 lines jon, from some of your IDM times i'd say you are a huge orbital fan...

>jon, from some of your IDM times i'd say you are a huge orbital fan... >or at least it seems that way...but beside the point!

*cough choke sputter*... glad to know reading comprehension is alive and well in the nineties... (hint: that was sarcasm.) /jon