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2005-04-19 17:04morgan quaintance [idm] authechre untilted
├─ 2005-04-19 17:32precursor Re: [idm] authechre untilted
├─ 2005-04-19 18:04j e m Re: [idm] authechre untilted
│ └─ 2005-04-19 18:27Adam Piontek Re: [idm] authechre untilted
│ └─ 2005-04-19 18:52thorsten Sideb0ard Re: [idm] autechre untilted
│ └─ 2005-04-19 18:59thorsten Sideb0ard Re: [idm] autechre untilted
│ └─ 2005-04-19 19:10kompaktkiste RE: [idm] autechre untilted
│ └─ 2005-04-19 19:13Alan Lucas Re: [idm] autechre untilted
└─ 2005-04-19 21:38J m Re: [idm] authechre untilted
└─ 2005-04-20 03:48Theorema Binario Re: [idm] authechre untilted
2005-04-20 04:43basura. Re: [idm] authechre untilted
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2005-04-19 17:04morgan quaintanceI cannot believe how ignorant some people appear to be on this discussion list. Untilted i
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I cannot believe how ignorant some people appear to be on this discussion list. Untilted is an amazing album, produced with subtle and at times astonishing beauty. I would love to hear what some of you would recomend as an example of a well produced album. Perhaps the rather obvious cartoon concrete of squarpusher, or the mediocre beats of aphex twin, or maybe you'll offer up christian fennesz as an example of well made electronic music. This is a man who makes the same album again and again and again..however lush as his stuff sounds hes still a one trick pony..just like twerk...or mr swing quantise as i like to call him. I think i was miles davis who when asked why he doesnt play 'my funny valentine' andymore he replied 'because i like it so much'. What is being stressed here is the need to move on by creating NEW things, and exploring new teritory. untilted is not a return to old autechre, it is a work in its own right. You people who lament their continued progress should really leave out the criticism. Anyone who knows Autechre respects that each new album will be a new direction, one which may seem challenging at first but will soon evolve into the most beutiful and obvious creation. For me Untilted is the most natural sounding electronic record i have heard in ages. I mean the rhythms are astounding, deep, funky, and so fucking spiritual. Shit man you haters really have no idea at all....no idea. But thats okay with me...but please let me know who you think is class i really would love to know........probly manitoba or bloody four tet or something. :o) Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
2005-04-19 17:32precursoron 4/19/05 1:04 PM, morgan quaintance at plugcs_123@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > I cannot believe
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on 4/19/05 1:04 PM, morgan quaintance at plugcs_123@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
quoted 35 lines I cannot believe how ignorant some people appear to be on this discussion> I cannot believe how ignorant some people appear to be on this discussion > list. Untilted is an amazing album, produced with subtle and at times > astonishing beauty. > > I would love to hear what some of you would recomend as an example of a well > produced album. Perhaps the rather obvious cartoon concrete of squarpusher, or > the mediocre beats of aphex twin, or maybe you'll offer up christian fennesz > as an example of well made electronic music. This is a man who makes the same > album again and again and again..however lush as his stuff sounds hes still a > one trick pony..just like twerk...or mr swing quantise as i like to call him. > > I think i was miles davis who when asked why he doesnt play 'my funny > valentine' andymore he replied 'because i like it so much'. What is being > stressed here is the need to move on by creating NEW things, and exploring new > teritory. > > untilted is not a return to old autechre, it is a work in its own right. You > people who lament their continued progress should really leave out the > criticism. Anyone who knows Autechre respects that each new album will be a > new direction, one which may seem challenging at first but will soon evolve > into the most beutiful and obvious creation. > > For me Untilted is the most natural sounding electronic record i have heard in > ages. I mean the rhythms are astounding, deep, funky, and so fucking > spiritual. Shit man you haters really have no idea at all....no idea. > > But thats okay with me...but please let me know who you think is class i > really would love to know........probly manitoba or bloody four tet or > something. :o) > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >
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2005-04-19 18:04j e myeah, people have gotta learn to perceive without safety nets. if you need a guide, get a
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yeah, people have gotta learn to perceive without safety nets. if you need a guide, get a copy of hafler trio's 'bag of cats' and listen to it 23 times in a row. that should fix your wagon. ...and to all the posers trying to funnel electronic music into some banal populist genre, you apparently have no grasp of musical intent... or artistic intent in general for that matter. the reactionary crits on this list come off as whiny; and the cherry on top is the blatant disrespect for the creative process. after a couple of ill conceived attacks against artists IDMers claim to respect, they start to sound like a bunch of squares from the '50s looking at a Franz Kline, trying to claim the work is trash and that their pet monkey could've shit a better composition. let's make some PROGRESS people. c'mon! "go get your beats at mcdonald's, bitch" ~ dj spooky, that subliminal kid thanks for reading, j e m On 4/19/05, morgan quaintance <plugcs_123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
quoted 14 lines I cannot believe how ignorant some people appear to be on this discussion list. Untilted i> I cannot believe how ignorant some people appear to be on this discussion list. Untilted is an amazing album, produced with subtle and at times astonishing beauty. > > I would love to hear what some of you would recomend as an example of a well produced album. Perhaps the rather obvious cartoon concrete of squarpusher, or the mediocre beats of aphex twin, or maybe you'll offer up christian fennesz as an example of well made electronic music. This is a man who makes the same album again and again and again..however lush as his stuff sounds hes still a one trick pony..just like twerk...or mr swing quantise as i like to call him. > > I think i was miles davis who when asked why he doesnt play 'my funny valentine' andymore he replied 'because i like it so much'. What is being stressed here is the need to move on by creating NEW things, and exploring new teritory. > > untilted is not a return to old autechre, it is a work in its own right. You people who lament their continued progress should really leave out the criticism. Anyone who knows Autechre respects that each new album will be a new direction, one which may seem challenging at first but will soon evolve into the most beutiful and obvious creation. > > For me Untilted is the most natural sounding electronic record i have heard in ages. I mean the rhythms are astounding, deep, funky, and so fucking spiritual. Shit man you haters really have no idea at all....no idea. > > But thats okay with me...but please let me know who you think is class i really would love to know........probly manitoba or bloody four tet or something. :o) > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >
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2005-04-19 18:27Adam PiontekI've never gotten into DJ Spooky's music, but I've always liked Autechre. Though I don't l
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I've never gotten into DJ Spooky's music, but I've always liked Autechre. Though I don't listen to Confield or Draft 7.30 very much. But I do like Gantz Graf quite a lot. *shrug* ...I have a strange feeling I'll like the new album, though I haven't heard it yet. What I do know is that I haven't really heard any new IDM since the last Plaid album. Even better, man, give me some old-school Musicology or Redcell any day. Get me soaring over some dystopian metropolis in my B12 Cloud-Car whilst talking to my A.I. pet via my Neurojack hyperlink to the city's VR-net and you'll have me in cyborg's heaven, you will. Now *that* was IDM. Not that I listened to any of it until the '00s. But leave out the Future Past/As One and the Stasis stuff, that noise just doesn't do it for me. j e m wrote:
quoted 41 lines yeah, people have gotta learn to perceive without safety nets. if you> yeah, people have gotta learn to perceive without safety nets. if you > need a guide, get a copy of hafler trio's 'bag of cats' and listen to > it 23 times in a row. that should fix your wagon. ...and to all the > posers trying to funnel electronic music into some banal populist > genre, you apparently have no grasp of musical intent... or artistic > intent in general for that matter. the reactionary crits on this list > come off as whiny; and the cherry on top is the blatant disrespect for > the creative process. after a couple of ill conceived attacks against > artists IDMers claim to respect, they start to sound like a bunch of > squares from the '50s looking at a Franz Kline, trying to claim the > work is trash and that their pet monkey could've shit a better > composition. let's make some PROGRESS people. c'mon! > > "go get your beats at mcdonald's, bitch" > ~ dj spooky, that subliminal kid > > thanks for reading, > j e m > > On 4/19/05, morgan quaintance <plugcs_123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>I cannot believe how ignorant some people appear to be on this discussion list. Untilted is an amazing album, produced with subtle and at times astonishing beauty. >> >>I would love to hear what some of you would recomend as an example of a well produced album. Perhaps the rather obvious cartoon concrete of squarpusher, or the mediocre beats of aphex twin, or maybe you'll offer up christian fennesz as an example of well made electronic music. This is a man who makes the same album again and again and again..however lush as his stuff sounds hes still a one trick pony..just like twerk...or mr swing quantise as i like to call him. >> >>I think i was miles davis who when asked why he doesnt play 'my funny valentine' andymore he replied 'because i like it so much'. What is being stressed here is the need to move on by creating NEW things, and exploring new teritory. >> >>untilted is not a return to old autechre, it is a work in its own right. You people who lament their continued progress should really leave out the criticism. Anyone who knows Autechre respects that each new album will be a new direction, one which may seem challenging at first but will soon evolve into the most beutiful and obvious creation. >> >>For me Untilted is the most natural sounding electronic record i have heard in ages. I mean the rhythms are astounding, deep, funky, and so fucking spiritual. Shit man you haters really have no idea at all....no idea. >> >>But thats okay with me...but please let me know who you think is class i really would love to know........probly manitoba or bloody four tet or something. :o) >> >>Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2005-04-19 18:52thorsten Sideb0ardAll this discussion and polarized heated debate prompted me to d/l it to check it out - i'
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All this discussion and polarized heated debate prompted me to d/l it to check it out - i'm totally blown away by it, its amazing - fast complex gritty beats and the sound pallette is so raw and dirty. Theres some really nice old school samples mashed and scrunched in the mix. It reminds me a lot of Phonecia's brownout, butwith a really strong UK Grime influence to its sound and spastic rhythms. (disclaimer: i'll be down to smallfish to buy a copy by the end of the week!) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-04-19 18:59thorsten Sideb0ard>Phonecia's Phoenicia's ------------------------------------------------------------------
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quoted 1 line Phonecia's>Phonecia's
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2005-04-19 19:10kompaktkiste> >Phonecia's > > Phoenicia's > phoenecia ['s] -------------------------------------------
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quoted 4 lines Phonecia's> >Phonecia's > > Phoenicia's >
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2005-04-19 19:13Alan LucasOn 4/19/05, kompaktkiste <wolf@kompaktkiste.de> wrote: > > >Phonecia's > > > > Phoenicia's
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On 4/19/05, kompaktkiste <wolf@kompaktkiste.de> wrote:
quoted 7 lines Phonecia's> > >Phonecia's > > > > Phoenicia's > > > > phoenecia ['s] >
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2005-04-19 21:38J mAre you serious? No you cant be serious. On 4/19/05, morgan quaintance <plugcs_123@yahoo.c
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Are you serious? No you cant be serious. On 4/19/05, morgan quaintance <plugcs_123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
quoted 35 lines I cannot believe how ignorant some people appear to be on this discussion> > I cannot believe how ignorant some people appear to be on this discussion > list. Untilted is an amazing album, produced with subtle and at times > astonishing beauty. > > I would love to hear what some of you would recomend as an example of a > well produced album. Perhaps the rather obvious cartoon concrete of > squarpusher, or the mediocre beats of aphex twin, or maybe you'll offer up > christian fennesz as an example of well made electronic music. This is a man > who makes the same album again and again and again..however lush as his > stuff sounds hes still a one trick pony..just like twerk...or mr swing > quantise as i like to call him. > > I think i was miles davis who when asked why he doesnt play 'my funny > valentine' andymore he replied 'because i like it so much'. What is being > stressed here is the need to move on by creating NEW things, and exploring > new teritory. > > untilted is not a return to old autechre, it is a work in its own right. > You people who lament their continued progress should really leave out the > criticism. Anyone who knows Autechre respects that each new album will be a > new direction, one which may seem challenging at first but will soon evolve > into the most beutiful and obvious creation. > > For me Untilted is the most natural sounding electronic record i have > heard in ages. I mean the rhythms are astounding, deep, funky, and so > fucking spiritual. Shit man you haters really have no idea at all....no > idea. > > But thats okay with me...but please let me know who you think is class i > really would love to know........probly manitoba or bloody four tet or > something. :o) > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >
2005-04-20 03:48Theorema Binariomorgan you me laugh, cause some people as me dont like the last ae album as the others,doe
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morgan you me laugh, cause some people as me dont like the last ae album as the others,doesnt mean we are ignorants. For me,a great album is one that satisfieds me from the beginning to the end, this album doesnt. I think ae can do better than this, this album truely dissapointed me. Do you wanna hear about well produced albums? I thin the lasts albums from VS and from P73 are excellent, havent read bad critics about them. -- Theorema Binario --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-04-20 04:43basura.agree. i think this album is stellar...it reminds me of why i got into autechre in the fir
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agree. i think this album is stellar...it reminds me of why i got into autechre in the first place. when you listen to it on yr headphones really loud and open yrself up to what they're offering you musically, it opens up doors- use yr imagination and see where the music takes you!!! delicious experimental electronic music indeed. I LOVE IT. basura --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides!