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what about the new shadetek release? i thought that was ill... -j shoe

quoted 56 lines From: andrew jones <liminal18@mac.com>

>From: andrew jones <liminal18@mac.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] warp fell off >Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:18:46 -0400 > >it's been years since I heard anything good on Warp or in idm in general. >!!! I actually kinda like and that Gravenhurst warp just put out is >getting good press but the last chris clark/ almost everything else >has left me un--impressed. > >- >a > >On Sunday, July 18, 2004, at 10:16 PM, chthonic streams wrote: > >>>on 7/18/04 6:18 PM, Ayfast at ateoate909@yahoo.com wrote: >>> >>>> is it just me or does everything warp put out after >>>> "ultravisitor" suck ass? they fell off REAL hard. i >>>> guess great things don't last forever. >>> >>> >>>Hmmmm...seems to me they fell off long before "Ultravistor"(which isn't >>>good >>>either)..... >> >>i think it was kid606 who made a great point that if you're doing >>experimental music you have to accept that sometimes the experiment isn't >>going to work. being that warp is supposedly an electronic and >>experimental music label, i'd apply this here. seems to me warp is trying >>to expand out of being a pure "IDM" label by signing vincent gallo, >>broadcast, and !!! >> >>maybe these aren't all great choices or albums (although i like gallo's), >>but they're trying something different. if they think it's not working >>maybe they'll try something else. >> >> >>d. >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >Andrew Jones >912 Euclid Ave. >Birmingham, AL, 35213 >407-927-7607 >aim: liminal18 > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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live their good and yeah there's some good stuff on Burnerism, but for the most part it seems like IDM has lost it's steam. - a On Monday, July 19, 2004, at 12:12 AM, Josh Shoemaker wrote:

quoted 73 lines what about the new shadetek release? i thought that was ill...

> what about the new shadetek release? i thought that was ill... > > -j shoe > > >> From: andrew jones <liminal18@mac.com> >> To: idm@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [idm] warp fell off >> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:18:46 -0400 >> >> it's been years since I heard anything good on Warp or in idm in >> general. >> !!! I actually kinda like and that Gravenhurst warp just put out is >> getting good press but the last chris clark/ almost everything else >> has left me un--impressed. >> >> - >> a >> >> On Sunday, July 18, 2004, at 10:16 PM, chthonic streams wrote: >> >>>> on 7/18/04 6:18 PM, Ayfast at ateoate909@yahoo.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> is it just me or does everything warp put out after >>>>> "ultravisitor" suck ass? they fell off REAL hard. i >>>>> guess great things don't last forever. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hmmmm...seems to me they fell off long before "Ultravistor"(which >>>> isn't good >>>> either)..... >>> >>> i think it was kid606 who made a great point that if you're doing >>> experimental music you have to accept that sometimes the experiment >>> isn't going to work. being that warp is supposedly an electronic >>> and experimental music label, i'd apply this here. seems to me warp >>> is trying to expand out of being a pure "IDM" label by signing >>> vincent gallo, broadcast, and !!! >>> >>> maybe these aren't all great choices or albums (although i like >>> gallo's), but they're trying something different. if they think >>> it's not working maybe they'll try something else. >>> >>> >>> d. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >> Andrew Jones >> 912 Euclid Ave. >> Birmingham, AL, 35213 >> 407-927-7607 >> aim: liminal18 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Planning a family vacation? Check out the MSN Family Travel guide! > http://dollar.msn.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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quoted 9 lines From: andrew jones <liminal18@mac.com>

>>>From: andrew jones <liminal18@mac.com> >>>To: idm@hyperreal.org >>>Subject: Re: [idm] warp fell off >>>Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:18:46 -0400 >>> >>>it's been years since I heard anything good on Warp or in idm in general. >>>!!! I actually kinda like and that Gravenhurst warp just put out is >>>getting good press but the last chris clark/ almost everything else >>>has left me un--impressed.

i really like the second chris clark. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

chthonic streams wrote:

quoted 9 lines From: andrew jones <liminal18@mac.com>

>>>> From: andrew jones <liminal18@mac.com> >>>> >>>> it's been years since I heard anything good on Warp or in idm in >>>> general. >>>> !!! I actually kinda like and that Gravenhurst warp just put out is >>>> getting good press but the last chris clark/ almost everything else >>>> has left me un--impressed. > > i really like the second chris clark.

I liked 1-2 tracks on it... I'll jump on the "me too" bandwagon, legitimately because I was just thinking about this a couple days ago after going to Warp's site for the first time in months to see what they were up to. After listening to samples for some of the new stuff I hadn't heard about, I can honestly say I haven't liked anything they've released since about 2001, excepting the more long-standing artists on their roster. I really like all the recent Autechre releases, I loved Plaid's Spokes after a few listens, and I've always liked Broadcast since Warp first got them in '97/98, though they are pretty different and I don't listen to them much. The only exception to this exception rule has been Two Lone Swordsmen - I really dug their previous Warp releases, but the last one was too much of a departure for me. It's too bad they got rid of Jimi Tenor, though good for Jimi - his releases since leaving Warp, esp. the recent "Beyond The Stars", have been excellent! Not IDM (I go to Merck for that now), but good for me. For the people who say IDM is running out of steam, I don't think Warp has really released any IDM in ages. (Well, IDM as I like it/know it - I know the "definition" is pretty broad.) Experimental hip hop and electronic-indy-rock hybrids is what I see coming out of them for the past couple years. They can do what they want but it's just not my thing. I think they want to be Matador. I wish them success, and I'll still get the next BoC release, but I've long since stopped even keeping tabs on everything they release, let alone buying them. Though kudos to Warp for setting up Bleep - nothing I want yet, but it's a promising enterprise... On a related tip, Skam is the same way for me. Haven't liked anything they've put out in the last couple years except the Bola & Freeform albums. And speaking of electronic-indy-rock hybrids, if you *are* into that sort of thing, the new Capitol K album "Happy Happy" does it really well, with a nice kind of brit-pop spin. Too bad for me, though, because I wanted more of what he was doing before, which was more funky, dancy, psychedelic... -adamp damek.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 3 lines And speaking of electronic-indy-rock hybrids, if you *are* into that

>And speaking of electronic-indy-rock hybrids, if you *are* into that >sort of thing, the new Capitol K album "Happy Happy" does it really >well, with a nice kind of brit-pop spin.

sounds interesting. although morr music is really the center for that hybrid, right? d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

more like made me ill. --- Josh Shoemaker <shoe_funk@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 20 lines what about the new shadetek release? i thought that

> what about the new shadetek release? i thought that > was ill... > > -j shoe > > > >From: andrew jones <liminal18@mac.com> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] warp fell off > >Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:18:46 -0400 > > > >it's been years since I heard anything good on Warp > or in idm in general. > >!!! I actually kinda like and that Gravenhurst warp > just put out is > >getting good press but the last chris clark/ almost > everything else > >has left me un--impressed. > > > >-

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> >a > > > >On Sunday, July 18, 2004, at 10:16 PM, chthonic > streams wrote: > > > >>>on 7/18/04 6:18 PM, Ayfast at > ateoate909@yahoo.com wrote: > >>> > >>>> is it just me or does everything warp put out > after > >>>> "ultravisitor" suck ass? they fell off REAL > hard. i > >>>> guess great things don't last forever. > >>> > >>> > >>>Hmmmm...seems to me they fell off long before > "Ultravistor"(which isn't > >>>good > >>>either)..... > >> > >>i think it was kid606 who made a great point that > if you're doing > >>experimental music you have to accept that > sometimes the experiment isn't > >>going to work. being that warp is supposedly an > electronic and > >>experimental music label, i'd apply this here. > seems to me warp is trying > >>to expand out of being a pure "IDM" label by > signing vincent gallo, > >>broadcast, and !!! > >> > >>maybe these aren't all great choices or albums > (although i like gallo's), > >>but they're trying something different. if they > think it's not working > >>maybe they'll try something else. > >> > >> > >>d. > >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >>For additional commands, e-mail: > idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > >Andrew Jones > >912 Euclid Ave. > >Birmingham, AL, 35213 > >407-927-7607 > >aim: liminal18 > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: > idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: > idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >

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quoted 7 lines Maybe. I dunno, since I'm not really into the sound I don't listen to

> Maybe. I dunno, since I'm not really into the sound I don't listen to > morr music much. What I am familiar with, I think of as more subdued, > minimalist... and kind of German/Euro electronic/indyrock hybrid. The > Capitol K has a more upbeat New York/U.K. feel to it, a bit more poppy, > more guitar & "traditional" sounding. More rock, less electronic. > > In my humble, vague & non-descriptive opinion :/

Morr is actually very much on the more subdued indie/electronic hybrid. Lali puna, isan, sytrofoam, etc... If you like that sound i'd very much recommend checking out most of their releases. Capitol K's stuff that I know does have more energy and mass-appeal to it, while still being pretty darn weird. - cutups --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Both of Manual's Morr albums are absolutely fantastic. So is hiw other music for that matter. cutups <cutup@andythepooh.com> wrote:

quoted 7 lines Maybe. I dunno, since I'm not really into the sound I don't listen to

> Maybe. I dunno, since I'm not really into the sound I don't listen to > morr music much. What I am familiar with, I think of as more subdued, > minimalist... and kind of German/Euro electronic/indyrock hybrid. The > Capitol K has a more upbeat New York/U.K. feel to it, a bit more poppy, > more guitar & "traditional" sounding. More rock, less electronic. > > In my humble, vague & non-descriptive opinion :/

Morr is actually very much on the more subdued indie/electronic hybrid. Lali puna, isan, sytrofoam, etc... If you like that sound i'd very much recommend checking out most of their releases. Capitol K's stuff that I know does have more energy and mass-appeal to it, while still being pretty darn weird. - cutups --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org