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I've seen him DJ a number of times in different contexts : chill out, dub, techno, experimental and he never ceases to surprise me, or fail to pick good records. I think he'll probably be more interesting that Mr Hawtin. On May 03.2004, at 15.49, Maximilien Lincourt wrote:

quoted 19 lines I like some of his work in Two Lone Swordsmen, what can we expect of

> I like some of his work in Two Lone Swordsmen, what can we expect of > him as > a DJ ? > > He's coming to Mutek, as the "supporting" DJ for Plastikman. > > Thanks > > ---- > Maximilien Lincourt > maximilien dot lincourt at mayametrix dot com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >

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andrew is brilliant no matter what context he's playing in - and I've even heard him do a country/reggae set! tho for Mutek he probably wont be going that far out... i've seen hawtin as well - backstage at some festie at 5am twidling knobs - i prefer weatherall because he can go in any direction and although richie is brill 2 - there arent many surprises - ie might as well be at home listening to the album - whereas andrew avoids playing a lotta his own tracks. - unless its billed as a Two Lone Swordsmen gig - but then its usually not just him. x nh At 4:00 pm +0100 3/5/04, muffin wrote:

quoted 15 lines I've seen him DJ a number of times in different contexts : chill

>I've seen him DJ a number of times in different contexts : chill >out, dub, techno, experimental and he never ceases to surprise me, >or fail to pick good records. > >I think he'll probably be more interesting that Mr Hawtin. > >On May 03.2004, at 15.49, Maximilien Lincourt wrote: > >>I like some of his work in Two Lone Swordsmen, what can we expect of him as >>a DJ ? >> >>He's coming to Mutek, as the "supporting" DJ for Plastikman. >> >>Thanks >>

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A while ago I would have agreed with you 100%, but the last time I saw Weatherall he bored me to tears. It was a fairly weak electro/breaks set that did absolutly nothing for me, every other time I've seen him has been fantastic though. I suppose that's a risk when you never play the same set twice. Hawtin on the other hand usually tours with a mostly predefined set of fairly similar techno, (a bit weird as he's one of the biggest advocates of Final Scratch which allows you to carry around a lot more records than you could otherwise, anyway........) which doesn't mean that he can a bit boring, especially if you've seen him a fair few times.

quoted 34 lines andrew is brilliant no matter what context he's playing in -

> andrew is brilliant no matter what context he's playing in - > and I've even heard him do a country/reggae set! tho for Mutek > he probably wont be going that far out... > i've seen hawtin as well - backstage at some festie at 5am twidling > knobs - i prefer weatherall because > he can go in any direction and although richie is brill 2 - there > arent many surprises - ie might as well be at home listening to > the album - whereas andrew avoids playing a lotta his own tracks. > > - unless its billed as a Two Lone Swordsmen gig - but then its usually > not just him. > > x > nh > > At 4:00 pm +0100 3/5/04, muffin wrote: > >> I've seen him DJ a number of times in different contexts : chill out, >> dub, techno, experimental and he never ceases to surprise me, or fail >> to pick good records. >> >> I think he'll probably be more interesting that Mr Hawtin. >> >> On May 03.2004, at 15.49, Maximilien Lincourt wrote: >> >>> I like some of his work in Two Lone Swordsmen, what can we expect of >>> him as >>> a DJ ? >>> >>> He's coming to Mutek, as the "supporting" DJ for Plastikman. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >

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Thanks ...

quoted 3 lines A while ago I would have agreed with you 100%, but the last time I saw

> > A while ago I would have agreed with you 100%, but the last time I saw > Weatherall he bored me to tears.

hhhuhggg :-( anyway, I will be there ...

quoted 7 lines Hawtin on the other hand usually tours with a mostly predefined set of

> > Hawtin on the other hand usually tours with a mostly predefined set of > fairly similar techno, (a bit weird as he's one of the biggest advocates > of Final Scratch which allows you to carry around a lot more records > than you could otherwise, anyway........) which doesn't mean that he can > a bit boring, especially if you've seen him a fair few times. >

yep... but it's not HAWTIN, it's Plastikman LIVE not his usual dj/FS/efx/ableton thing ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Maximilien Lincourt wrote:

quoted 13 lines Thanks ...

>Thanks ... > > > >>A while ago I would have agreed with you 100%, but the last time I saw >>Weatherall he bored me to tears. >> >> > > >hhhuhggg :-( anyway, I will be there ... > >

Well I've seen him about 5 times, and only one was bad, so you got about an 80% chance of it being fantantic :)

quoted 14 lines Hawtin on the other hand usually tours with a mostly predefined set of

> > >>Hawtin on the other hand usually tours with a mostly predefined set of >>fairly similar techno, (a bit weird as he's one of the biggest advocates >>of Final Scratch which allows you to carry around a lot more records >>than you could otherwise, anyway........) which doesn't mean that he can >>a bit boring, especially if you've seen him a fair few times. >> >> >> > >yep... but it's not HAWTIN, it's Plastikman LIVE not his usual >dj/FS/efx/ableton thing ... >

Cool, should be good then. Hopefully he'll be doing the same next time he comes round our way (even if I do think the last Plastikman album was decidedly iffy....) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 1 line what can we expect of him as a DJ?

> what can we expect of him as a DJ?

well, as it has been mentioned, you never really know for sure with this man. but with all the hubub over ROTTERS GOLF CLUB and the electro-tech revival/backlash/whatever, i think it's fair to say he'll be swatting electro-infused breaks and RGC-styled mayhem. roughcore darkness, people. weird, unorganized noise. good times? not my bag really. i saw him close for the plaid/p73 tour last year in SF. bimbo's was live and having it. and while it was quite the mashup -- god, i think he went through about 60+ records in 90 minutes w/on-point quick mixes -- the overall set was too monotonous. up, down, left, right. clockworky. as for his technique, i wouldn't knock it -- the man can flat out mix with the best of em. i just wish he would pick some groovers every now and again. it's ok to smash people over the head with some radioactive man every once in a while too ;) for advanced listening of a different kind, i would track down his BLOODSUGAR mixtape series. do it and some years to your life for christsakes. vols 1-7 are chocked full of deep, dubby, minimal house groovers from the glory days of FORCE TRACKS, BURIAL MIX, RAUM, etc. tight dancehall-tech for 2010. none of this "digital disco" shite. true. asg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

man i've known andrew for years but didnt know about the mixtape series. when andrew plays in this vein its most excellent - i've got a heavenly social mix tape from years back he did that i still play driving filled with deep dubby house - some even w/ vocals..it's classic. rotters isnt selling these are they? (i know what i'm gonna ask him 4 next time i see him... hehehe!) nH

quoted 13 lines for advanced listening of a different kind, i would track down his

> >for advanced listening of a different kind, i would track down his >BLOODSUGAR mixtape series. do it and some years to your life for >christsakes. vols 1-7 are chocked full of deep, dubby, minimal house >groovers from the glory days of FORCE TRACKS, BURIAL MIX, RAUM, etc. tight >dancehall-tech for 2010. none of this "digital disco" shite. true. > >asg > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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I grabbed several of these from the old Haywire mail order years ago - I think Amanda (who does admin. or is at least a "official"presence for the TLS list) was involved then as well. If anyone is interested, it's a low traffic list : swordsmen-subscribe@hyperreal.org If anyone can get those tapes, it's Amanda. jeff At 08:45 AM 5/6/2004, nethed wrote:

quoted 17 lines man i've known andrew for years but didnt know about the mixtape

>man i've known andrew for years but didnt know about the mixtape >series. when andrew plays in this vein its most excellent - i've got >a heavenly social mix tape from years back he did that i still play >driving filled with deep dubby house - some even w/ vocals..it's classic. > >rotters isnt selling these are they? > >(i know what i'm gonna ask him 4 next time i see him... hehehe!) > >nH > >> >>for advanced listening of a different kind, i would track down his >>BLOODSUGAR mixtape series. do it and some years to your life for >>christsakes. vols 1-7 are chocked full of deep, dubby, minimal house >>groovers from the glory days of FORCE TRACKS, BURIAL MIX, RAUM, etc. tight >>dancehall-tech for 2010. none of this "digital disco" shite. true.

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quoted 3 lines A while ago I would have agreed with you 100%, but the last time I saw

> A while ago I would have agreed with you 100%, but the last time I saw > Weatherall > he bored me to tears.

Speaking of which: new Two Lone Swordsmen stuff: drone-y rock'n'roll, with vocals: http://www.twoloneswordsmen.com/music.html seek np: v.delay - live --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 12 lines Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:16:07 -0700

> Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:16:07 -0700 > To: "Idm@Hyperreal. Org" <idm@hyperreal.org> > From: "asg" <asg@sdrproductions.com> > Subject: RE: [idm] Andrew Weatherall as a DJ ? > Message-ID: <FMEHKKKDEEKFBIMHBHKFIEPJCMAA.asg@sdrproductions.com> > > > what can we expect of him as a DJ? > > for advanced listening of a different kind, i would track down his > BLOODSUGAR mixtape series. do it and some years to your life for > christsakes. vols 1-7 are chocked full of deep, dubby, minimal house > groovers from the glory days of FORCE TRACKS, BURIAL MIX, RAUM, etc.

tight

quoted 3 lines dancehall-tech for 2010. none of this "digital disco" shite. true.

> dancehall-tech for 2010. none of this "digital disco" shite. true. > > asg

I used to have some tapes he did on Kiss FM from about 92. The show was a last ditch attempt at retaining credibility called 'keeping it real' or something where they would invite decent djs to play in the small hours and play Kiss jingles really loud all over their sets. He kept complaining about it on air. But those tapes were still gold - last seen in St Petersburg in 93 (hopefully many copies were made). It was classic home listening stuff from Black Dog to Dr. John. If anyone has any decent recordings of those sessions, drop me a line. -- http://noiseloop.com electronic music info hub --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Weatherall is to some legendary as a DJ. Like most 20 year veterans, technique is second nature and he focuses on mixing a musical set. He has a trick I've never seen anyone else try -- he will backspin a record and when it reverses it comes back in on beat. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On May 06.2004, at 17.48, Kent williams wrote:

quoted 5 lines Weatherall is to some legendary as a DJ. Like most 20 year veterans,

> Weatherall is to some legendary as a DJ. Like most 20 year veterans, > technique is second nature and he focuses on mixing a musical set. He > has a trick I've never seen anyone else try -- he will backspin a > record > and when it reverses it comes back in on beat.

I've seen quite a few people do that one. Was a very popular move with late 80's/early 90's rave DJs. For DJ tricks my favourite was always Claude Youngs trick of putting his record on top of a cotton reel, flipping the headshell upside down, and playing it backwards [in time]. He is a bit of a show off that Mr Young... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 13 lines Weatherall is to some legendary as a DJ. Like most 20 year veterans,

> > Weatherall is to some legendary as a DJ. Like most 20 year veterans, > > technique is second nature and he focuses on mixing a musical set. He > > has a trick I've never seen anyone else try -- he will backspin a > > record > > and when it reverses it comes back in on beat. > > I've seen quite a few people do that one. Was a very popular move with > late 80's/early 90's rave DJs. > > For DJ tricks my favourite was always Claude Youngs trick of putting > his record on top of a cotton reel, flipping the headshell upside down, > and playing it backwards [in time]. He is a bit of a show off that Mr > Young...

I saw a local no-name DJ do that years ago, gotta say that one is fun... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org