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hey everyone: sorry to bother you guys with this shit but does the majority on this list agree with mr. worthington over here. very curious.

quoted 97 lines From: "N. Graham Worthington" <nworth1@gl.umbc.edu>

>From: "N. Graham Worthington" <nworth1@gl.umbc.edu> >To: headphonescience@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: [idm] political leanings of modern artists. >Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:43:50 -0400 (EDT) > >On 16 Oct 2003 "headphone science" <headphonescience@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > ---man, don't talk to me like i'm an idiot. i know the rules of the >idm-list > > and we're not talking about "Flame wars, regular trade lists, constant > > notifications of ebay auctions, and weekly notices as to the various >tracks > > you have uploaded to mp3.com in the last week"--{this is seeming to >become > > into a flame war though.} > >You made an idiotic statement -- "i believe everyone on this list is equal >and should be able to say whatever they want no matter if you agree with >it or not. there doesn't have to be an idm dictator who controls topics >and words..." -- as I saw it. Only an idiot (or someone unfamiliar >with idml policy, which apparently you are quite familiar with by your >own admission) would suppose that any message, regardless of whether it's >on topic or not, is fit for idml. I initially gave you the benefit of the >doubt and assumed you weren't an idiot. You have proven my assumption to >be less than accurate. > > > if you take my statement in context with the rest > > of the email it makes sense....but i guess it's my fault cuz i didn't > > specify. > >No, it doesn't make any sense at all, not in any context, except to people >who don't know the meaning of the term "on topic." > > > how bout this..."everyone on this list is equal and should be able > > to say whatever they want no matter if you agree with it or not as long >as > > it's not a flame war, a regular trade list, constant notifications of >ebay > > auctions, and weekly notices as to the various tracks you have uploaded >to > > mp3.com in the last week"..is that better? > >No, it's not better, because you didn't mention the qualification of being >"on topic." Excluding those types of messages doesn't necessarily >preclude all off topic posts. > > > man...get intelligent and if > > you're going to call me out about something make sure i actually made a > > wrong statement.... > >You're welcome to believe what you want to believe regarding how idml >*SHOULD BE* ...however the way it *ACTUALLY IS* doesn't coincide with your >vision. > >Let me make this clear -- initially I wasn't necessarily accusing you of >posting off-topic. I was shooting down the notion that anyone "should be >able to say whatever they want no matter if you agree with it or not. >there doesn't have to be an idm dictator who controls topics and words..." >on idml. We don't need a dictator, we have a core of attentive and >involved subscribers who do their best to perpetuate the type of list that >they enjoy using. When someone like yourself attempts to subvert the >ideal, by suggesting that it's OK to post whatever one wants to idml >regardless of any pre-existing terms and conditions, the core will react. > > > but i'll bet you or someone just like you will have > > something to say about this now. we should make a thread about the >politics > > of the idm-list...cuz damn it definitely seems we have some people who >would > > love to be president. at least the majority of this list is still cool. > >Actually, the next guy to post on this thread after your reply to me said >it all when he posted "and thus, the pointless pissing contest ended :) :) >:)" > >I'd like to think I played a small role in ending your oh-so-pointless >pissing contest. At least one other person thinks so too. > >By the way, the majority of the list never posts at all, and there is no >need for a "president" since we have Brian, who may be a bit reclusive, >but who does a fine job of administering the list, and we have the >aforementioned core. > >Still think I need to "get intelligent"? > >PLEASE IDIOTICALLY BLOW IT OUT YOUR IDIOTIC ASS. > >Ta, >N. > >PS I mailed you privately because I know the definition of "on topic." >Why don't you try www.m-w.com next time you can't remember what a word >means. > >PPS Please, make your best attempt to flame me in return. I'd love to see >what sort of insults idiots are conjuring up these days. >

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At 03:47 AM 10/18/2003, headphone science wrote:

quoted 4 lines hey everyone:

>hey everyone: > >sorry to bother you guys with this shit but does the majority on this list >agree with mr. worthington over here. very curious.

Whatever you think about what he said, he did the proper thing and took it private. You, in turn, chose to make it public - which is a pretty strong indication that you need to read something on netiquette. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On 18 Oct 2003 "headphone science" <headphonescience@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 4 lines hey everyone:

> hey everyone: > > sorry to bother you guys with this shit but does the majority on this list > agree with mr. worthington over here. very curious.

<snip> uhhhhh, dude, here's a link for you: mailto:idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org?subject=i'm too dense to stay subbed really, man. my apologies for posting this publically, but, there is this other post to address as well... On 18 Oct 2003 "chthonic streams" <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> wrote:

quoted 2 lines my opinion is they're both out of hand and should take what is

> my opinion is they're both out of hand and should take what is > clearly becoming a flame-war offlist.

i didn't flame him publically (until this post), he just quoted my private mail to the entire list. i apologize to you and anyone else who mistakenly got the impression i posted that publically. in the future, i'll do my best to avoid engaging mental defectives entirely. one sliver of on-topicness: Warp made a huge mistake in not booking any mid-atlantic US dates for the plaid/vibert/et al tour. i find it hard to believe they couldnt coordinate a date in either philly, baltimore, or dc. they certainly have quite a fanbase in each of those cities, as I've noticed at other warp-affiliated tours i've attended in the region. i would have gone to any of those cities (hey i'd drive to richmond if by some weird chance the tour only stopped there) and paid whatever they wanted to charge to see this tour. but i'm not driving all the way to Ohio (!?) (no diss to Ohio-dwelling listmembers, but really...wtf) or NYC. I guess I won't diss NYC here either heh. any Warp reps care to shed some light on this? I know you're filtering idml, still looking for more ftp sites to shut down :) N. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

k..it's like this....and hopefully this'll end this.{probably won't though} the idmL is a public forum and i believe what starts publicly should end publicly. emailing me insults privately is a chicken shit way to go about things. grow a spine and say what you have to say in front of everyone. another reason i sent that was because it does make pretty good entertainment. now, if you still want to continue this battle {cuz i don't think we'll be seeing eye to eye anytime soon} let's be constructive and have a good old fashioned sound battle. i assume you make music cuz if you don't you're even more sorry. my skills verse your skills. let's see what you're made of. if you don't make music, than fuck it...just ignore me man. :dustin

quoted 56 lines From: "N. Graham Worthington" <nworth1@gl.umbc.edu>

>From: "N. Graham Worthington" <nworth1@gl.umbc.edu> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >CC: headphonescience@hotmail.com, <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> >Subject: [idm] Re: does everyone on this list feel like this guy? >Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:00:55 -0400 (EDT) > >On 18 Oct 2003 "headphone science" <headphonescience@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > hey everyone: > > > > sorry to bother you guys with this shit but does the majority on this >list > > agree with mr. worthington over here. very curious. ><snip> > >uhhhhh, dude, here's a link for you: >mailto:idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org?subject=i'm too dense to stay subbed >really, man. > >my apologies for posting this publically, but, there is this other post >to address as well... > >On 18 Oct 2003 "chthonic streams" <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> wrote: > > > my opinion is they're both out of hand and should take what is > > clearly becoming a flame-war offlist. > >i didn't flame him publically (until this post), he just quoted my private >mail to the entire list. i apologize to you and anyone else who >mistakenly got the impression i posted that publically. in the future, >i'll do my best to avoid engaging mental defectives entirely. > >one sliver of on-topicness: > >Warp made a huge mistake in not booking any mid-atlantic US dates for the >plaid/vibert/et al tour. i find it hard to believe they couldnt >coordinate a date in either philly, baltimore, or dc. they certainly >have quite a fanbase in each of those cities, as I've noticed at other >warp-affiliated tours i've attended in the region. i would have >gone to any of those cities (hey i'd drive to richmond if by some weird >chance the tour only stopped there) and paid whatever they wanted to >charge to see this tour. but i'm not driving all the way to Ohio (!?) (no >diss to Ohio-dwelling listmembers, but really...wtf) or NYC. I guess I >won't diss NYC here either heh. > >any Warp reps care to shed some light on this? I know you're filtering >idml, still looking for more ftp sites to shut down :) > >N. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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