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2003-03-12 16:59daniel RE: [idm] Indie Ethics
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2003-03-12 16:59danielThat is right on the mark. Whereas if said record label distributed cd's to a radio statio
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RE: [idm] Indie Ethics
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That is right on the mark. Whereas if said record label distributed cd's to a radio station (promotion and radio play will inevitably increase album sales) it is a far cry different if mp3s are distro'd/pirated to a single user, when the demographic typically indicates that people who regularly d/k mp3's rarely purchase music. While there is no hard evidence that people who d/l music necessarily don't purchase music, I would bet two bucks that they don't buy the same album they downloaded. -daniel -----Original Message----- From: Jeff/Ninja Tune [mailto:jeff@ninjatune.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:57 AM To: EggyToast; idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] Indie Ethics we give them away for free to be broadcast for promotional purpose. Much like we can put free MP3's into circulation at our discretion. It should be noted that there is an income stream for radio play. There is some confusion that somehow I'm implying that we should own and get paid for the fact that our music gets broadcast and that people should pay if they hear Amon coming from their neighbours window. I never implied that. I'm simply stating there's a big difference between hearing a track on the radio or via other means, and actually having a reproduction of said track sitting on a hard-drive. I have to re-state again that we at Ninja Tune don't take a particularly hard stance once way or the other, it just irks me that people try and take some moral high-ground on what at the end of the day really is piracy. I shoplifted all sorts of shit when I was young and never felt really bad about it, but I never tried to pass it off as a cultural revolution. All I'm saying is that it should be up to the people that own and/or created the work as to how they want it to circulate. Jeff
quoted 28 lines From: EggyToast <eggy@eggtastic.com>> From: EggyToast <eggy@eggtastic.com> > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:03:10 -0500 > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Indie Ethics > > At 05:41 PM 3/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >> Look the way I see it, if someone spends money to create something >> and they put it in the marketplace to profit from that creation then >> anything that doesn't involve the exchange of money for it qualifies >> as a form of stealing. If they wanted to give it away for free then >> it should be their choice as to whether they want to do so, not >> arbitrarily decided by people with access to the ability to do so. > > How does that work for promo CD's? Those are given away for free. > Radio CD's? Free. They're expected to be played for hundreds > (thousands if it's a popular group) of people at no cost to the > people. > > derek > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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