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This guy is a longtime subscriber. What confuses you? On Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 06:14 <nicholas.piet33@gmail.com wrote:

quoted 76 lines I was extremely confused when I saw this in my inbox.

> I was extremely confused when I saw this in my inbox. > > Hm > > - Nick > > > > *From:* Radio Web MACBA <rwm2008@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 21:25 > *To:* idm list <idm@hyperreal.org> > *Subject:* New podcast: FAKA alk about performing masculinity and > self-policing, vulnerability, Siyakaka feminism, South African pop culture > in the 90s and racialised queer bodies > > > > *New podcast: Desire Marea and Fela Gucci (aka FAKA > <https://rwm.macba.cat/en/sonia/faka/capsula>) **talk about performing > masculinity and self-policing, vulnerability, Siyakaka feminism, South > African pop culture in the 90s, racialised queer bodies, music as a medium > and dealing with contradictions* > > > > Link: https://rwm.macba.cat/en/sonia/faka/capsula > > > > Desire Marea and Fela Gucci are the duo behind FAKA > <https://rwm.macba.cat/en/sonia/faka/capsula>, a cultural platform from > the heart of South Africa whose primary goal is to create alternative > representations of black queer identity. Given that the notion of gender is > heavily influenced by Western culture, FAKA defend that African identities > in general are queer, because they don't conform to the same patterns. > > FAKA's artistic activism is modelled on the anti-apartheid cultural > movement, but also employs strategies from advertising and pop culture. > Although the duo work with all kinds of media (texts, photography, > performance...), they mainly use music, drawing on sources ranging from > queer hip hop (Mikky Blanco, Lelf, House of Ladosha...) to nineties South > African afropop (Branda Fassie, Boom Shaka...) and local genres such as > gqom. > > Out of these influences, FAKA generate highly complex cultural products in > which voguing intersects South African cruising spots, reality shows, > gender theory, and gospel hymns. Aside from their capacity to absorb and > mix cultural codes from very different fields, FAKA manage to be combative > without sacrificing vulnerability in their fight for civil rights. > > Desire Marea and Fela Gucci talk about performing masculinity and > self-policing, vulnerability, Siyakaka feminism, South African pop culture > in the 90s, racialised queer bodies, music as a medium and dealing with > contradictions. > > *Timeline* > *03:30* Queer Africa > *04:27* Introductions > *10:35* Family matters > *14:13* Missions > *17:11* Homophobia and misogyny in South Africa > *21:19* Influences > *24:18* Language matters > *25:31* Kwaito > *27:55* Uyang'khumbula > *29:23* South African pop culture in the 90s > *31:07* Brenda Fassie > *31:42* Gqom > *36:40* The Factory > *44:05* The body as a medium > *49:36* Contradictions > > > > E/N/J/O/Y >

Oh nothing, I rarely check my emails… Interesting read tbch From: kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 00:53 To: do id <idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: Confused This guy is a longtime subscriber. What confuses you? On Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 06:14 <nicholas.piet33@gmail.com <mailto:nicholas.piet33@gmail.com> wrote: I was extremely confused when I saw this in my inbox. Hm * Nick From: Radio Web MACBA <rwm2008@gmail.com <mailto:rwm2008@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 21:25 To: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org <mailto:idm@hyperreal.org> > Subject: New podcast: FAKA alk about performing masculinity and self-policing, vulnerability, Siyakaka feminism, South African pop culture in the 90s and racialised queer bodies New podcast: Desire Marea and Fela Gucci (aka FAKA <https://rwm.macba.cat/en/sonia/faka/capsula> ) talk about performing masculinity and self-policing, vulnerability, Siyakaka feminism, South African pop culture in the 90s, racialised queer bodies, music as a medium and dealing with contradictions Link: https://rwm.macba.cat/en/sonia/faka/capsula Desire Marea and Fela Gucci are the duo behind FAKA <https://rwm.macba.cat/en/sonia/faka/capsula> , a cultural platform from the heart of South Africa whose primary goal is to create alternative representations of black queer identity. Given that the notion of gender is heavily influenced by Western culture, FAKA defend that African identities in general are queer, because they don't conform to the same patterns. FAKA's artistic activism is modelled on the anti-apartheid cultural movement, but also employs strategies from advertising and pop culture. Although the duo work with all kinds of media (texts, photography, performance...), they mainly use music, drawing on sources ranging from queer hip hop (Mikky Blanco, Lelf, House of Ladosha...) to nineties South African afropop (Branda Fassie, Boom Shaka...) and local genres such as gqom. Out of these influences, FAKA generate highly complex cultural products in which voguing intersects South African cruising spots, reality shows, gender theory, and gospel hymns. Aside from their capacity to absorb and mix cultural codes from very different fields, FAKA manage to be combative without sacrificing vulnerability in their fight for civil rights. Desire Marea and Fela Gucci talk about performing masculinity and self-policing, vulnerability, Siyakaka feminism, South African pop culture in the 90s, racialised queer bodies, music as a medium and dealing with contradictions. Timeline 03:30 Queer Africa 04:27 Introductions 10:35 Family matters 14:13 Missions 17:11 Homophobia and misogyny in South Africa 21:19 Influences 24:18 Language matters 25:31 Kwaito 27:55 Uyang'khumbula 29:23 South African pop culture in the 90s 31:07 Brenda Fassie 31:42 Gqom 36:40 The Factory 44:05 The body as a medium 49:36 Contradictions E/N/J/O/Y

Yes - typically, we've allowed posts from Radio Web MACBA to the list as they usually seemed related to electronic music in some way. Similarly with Galactic Travels and other such messages. The event described here sounds fascinating and I'd try to see it if I were in Barcelona, but it does feel quite off-topic. I don't know who's behind the MACBA email alias cc'd here, but I'd ask that they consider the audience next time they post, and make sure that what they're posting is relevant. Thanks, Brian On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, nicholas.piet33@gmail.com wrote:

quoted 60 lines I was extremely confused when I saw this in my inbox.

> I was extremely confused when I saw this in my inbox. > > Hm > > * Nick > >   > > From: Radio Web MACBA <rwm2008@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 21:25 > To: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org> > Subject: New podcast: FAKA alk about performing masculinity and self-policing, vulnerability, Siyakaka feminism, South African pop culture in the 90s and racialised queer bodies > >   > > New podcast: Desire Marea and Fela Gucci (aka FAKA) talk about performing masculinity and self-policing, vulnerability, Siyakaka feminism, South African pop culture in the 90s, racialised queer bodies, > music as a medium and dealing with contradictions > >   > > Link: https://rwm.macba.cat/en/sonia/faka/capsula > >   > > Desire Marea and Fela Gucci are the duo behind FAKA, a cultural platform from the heart of South Africa whose primary goal is to create alternative representations of black queer identity. Given that > the notion of gender is heavily influenced by Western culture, FAKA defend that African identities in general are queer, because they don't conform to the same patterns.  > > FAKA's artistic activism is modelled on the anti-apartheid cultural movement, but also employs strategies from advertising and pop culture. Although the duo work with all kinds of media (texts, > photography, performance...), they mainly use music, drawing on sources ranging from queer hip hop (Mikky Blanco, Lelf, House of Ladosha...) to nineties South African afropop (Branda Fassie, Boom > Shaka...) and local genres such as gqom.  > > Out of these influences, FAKA generate highly complex cultural products in which voguing intersects South African cruising spots, reality shows, gender theory, and gospel hymns. Aside from their > capacity to absorb and mix cultural codes from very different fields, FAKA manage to be combative without sacrificing vulnerability in their fight for civil rights. > > Desire Marea and Fela Gucci talk about performing masculinity and self-policing, vulnerability, Siyakaka feminism, South African pop culture in the 90s, racialised queer bodies, music as a medium and > dealing with contradictions. > > Timeline > 03:30 Queer Africa > 04:27 Introductions > 10:35 Family matters > 14:13 Missions > 17:11 Homophobia and misogyny in South Africa > 21:19 Influences > 24:18 Language matters > 25:31 Kwaito > 27:55 Uyang'khumbula > 29:23 South African pop culture in the 90s > 31:07 Brenda Fassie > 31:42 Gqom > 36:40 The Factory > 44:05 The body as a medium > 49:36 Contradictions > >   > > E/N/J/O/Y > > >

He posts on average 3 times a month* and there's always some interesting content. Not really IDM but not frequent enough or dumb enough to annoy me. *I haven't deleted an e-mail from IDM in a decade so I have my own archive of the list to search. On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 12:49 PM Brian Behlendorf <brian@behlendorf.com> wrote:

quoted 90 lines Yes - typically, we've allowed posts from Radio Web MACBA to the list as

> > Yes - typically, we've allowed posts from Radio Web MACBA to the list as > they usually seemed related to electronic music in some way. Similarly > with Galactic Travels and other such messages. The event described here > sounds fascinating and I'd try to see it if I were in Barcelona, but it > does feel quite off-topic. I don't know who's behind the MACBA email > alias cc'd here, but I'd ask that they consider the audience next time > they post, and make sure that what they're posting is relevant. Thanks, > > Brian > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, nicholas.piet33@gmail.com wrote: > > I was extremely confused when I saw this in my inbox. > > > > Hm > > > > * Nick > > > > > > > > From: Radio Web MACBA <rwm2008@gmail.com> > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 21:25 > > To: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Subject: New podcast: FAKA alk about performing masculinity and > self-policing, vulnerability, Siyakaka feminism, South African pop culture > in the 90s and racialised queer bodies > > > > > > > > New podcast: Desire Marea and Fela Gucci (aka FAKA) talk about > performing masculinity and self-policing, vulnerability, Siyakaka feminism, > South African pop culture in the 90s, racialised queer bodies, > > music as a medium and dealing with contradictions > > > > > > > > Link: https://rwm.macba.cat/en/sonia/faka/capsula > > > > > > > > Desire Marea and Fela Gucci are the duo behind FAKA, a cultural platform > from the heart of South Africa whose primary goal is to create alternative > representations of black queer identity. Given that > > the notion of gender is heavily influenced by Western culture, FAKA > defend that African identities in general are queer, because they don't > conform to the same patterns. > > > > FAKA's artistic activism is modelled on the anti-apartheid cultural > movement, but also employs strategies from advertising and pop culture. > Although the duo work with all kinds of media (texts, > > photography, performance...), they mainly use music, drawing on sources > ranging from queer hip hop (Mikky Blanco, Lelf, House of Ladosha...) to > nineties South African afropop (Branda Fassie, Boom > > Shaka...) and local genres such as gqom. > > > > Out of these influences, FAKA generate highly complex cultural products > in which voguing intersects South African cruising spots, reality shows, > gender theory, and gospel hymns. Aside from their > > capacity to absorb and mix cultural codes from very different fields, > FAKA manage to be combative without sacrificing vulnerability in their > fight for civil rights. > > > > Desire Marea and Fela Gucci talk about performing masculinity and > self-policing, vulnerability, Siyakaka feminism, South African pop culture > in the 90s, racialised queer bodies, music as a medium and > > dealing with contradictions. > > > > Timeline > > 03:30 Queer Africa > > 04:27 Introductions > > 10:35 Family matters > > 14:13 Missions > > 17:11 Homophobia and misogyny in South Africa > > 21:19 Influences > > 24:18 Language matters > > 25:31 Kwaito > > 27:55 Uyang'khumbula > > 29:23 South African pop culture in the 90s > > 31:07 Brenda Fassie > > 31:42 Gqom > > 36:40 The Factory > > 44:05 The body as a medium > > 49:36 Contradictions > > > > > > > > E/N/J/O/Y > > > > > >