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RE: [idm] appropriation in art [was Digital Cutup Lounge onCNN.c om]

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2002-04-10 00:40Jason Cole RE: FW: [idm] appropriation in art [was Digital Cutup Lounge on C NN.c om]
└─ 2002-04-10 00:55Andrei RE: FW: [idm] appropriation in art [was Digital Cutup Lounge on C NN.c om]
2002-04-10 00:59lysaabi Re: FW: [idm] appropriation in art [was Digital Cutup Lounge on CNN.c om]
└─ 2002-04-10 01:24Andrei Re: FW: [idm] appropriation in art [was Digital Cutup Lounge on CNN.c om]
2002-04-10 01:49lysaabi Re: FW: [idm] appropriation in art [was Digital Cutup Lounge onCNN.c om]
└─ 2002-04-10 01:52Andrei Re: FW: [idm] appropriation in art [was Digital Cutup Lounge onCNN.c om]
2002-04-10 03:56donna summer Re: FW: [idm] appropriation in art [was Digital Cutup Lounge onCNN.c om]
2002-04-10 05:05Christopher Sorg RE: [idm] appropriation in art [was Digital Cutup Lounge onCNN.c om]
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2002-04-10 00:40Jason ColeNaw, I meant just for the sake of making something visually appealing. No other reason. --
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Naw, I meant just for the sake of making something visually appealing. No other reason. -----Original Message----- From: Andrei [mailto:andrei@world.std.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:38 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: FW: [idm] appropriation in art [was Digital Cutup Lounge on CNN.c om] On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Jason Cole wrote:
quoted 1 line I thought they were all about art for art's sake?> I thought they were all about art for art's sake?
As opposed to what ? Art for the sake of commerce ? Andrei
quoted 7 lines On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, donna summer wrote:> On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, donna summer wrote: > > > The Dada's thrived on public controversey and malcontent. > > I think the Dadaists thrived on defying rationality and conventions. > > Andrei
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2002-04-10 00:55AndreiOn Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Jason Cole wrote: > Naw, I meant just for the sake of making something
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On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Jason Cole wrote:
quoted 2 lines Naw, I meant just for the sake of making something visually appealing. No> Naw, I meant just for the sake of making something visually appealing. No > other reason.
Well, that's absolutely not what Dada was about. Dada was really all about statements and messages and all that. Andrei
quoted 17 lines On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Jason Cole wrote:> On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Jason Cole wrote: > > > I thought they were all about art for art's sake? > > As opposed to what ? Art for the sake of commerce ? > > Andrei > > > > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, donna summer wrote: > > > > > The Dada's thrived on public controversey and malcontent. > > > > I think the Dadaists thrived on defying rationality and conventions. > > > > Andrei
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2002-04-10 00:59lysaabiAre you possibly confusing dada with symbolism? Andrei wrote: > > Well, that's absolutely
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Are you possibly confusing dada with symbolism? Andrei wrote:
quoted 6 lines Well, that's absolutely not what Dada was about.> > Well, that's absolutely not what Dada was about. > Dada was really all about statements and messages and all that. > > Andrei >
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2002-04-10 01:24Andrei> Are you possibly confusing dada with symbolism? Nope. :-> Andrei > Andrei wrote: > > > >
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quoted 1 line Are you possibly confusing dada with symbolism?> Are you possibly confusing dada with symbolism?
Nope. :-> Andrei
quoted 5 lines Andrei wrote:> Andrei wrote: > > > > > Well, that's absolutely not what Dada was about. > > Dada was really all about statements and messages and all that.
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2002-04-10 01:49lysaabiOk, then. You are mistaken when you say that dada was about statment and messages. Just lo
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Ok, then. You are mistaken when you say that dada was about statment and messages. Just look it up anywhere. Andrei wrote:
quoted 15 lines Are you possibly confusing dada with symbolism?> > Are you possibly confusing dada with symbolism? > > Nope. :-> > > Andrei > > > Andrei wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, that's absolutely not what Dada was about. > > > Dada was really all about statements and messages and all that. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2002-04-10 01:52AndreiOn Tue, 9 Apr 2002, lysaabi wrote: > Ok, then. You are mistaken when you say that dada was
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On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, lysaabi wrote:
quoted 3 lines Ok, then. You are mistaken when you say that dada was about statment and> Ok, then. You are mistaken when you say that dada was about statment and > messages. > Just look it up anywhere.
Please shut the fuck up ! I suggest you do some research yourself. Andrei
quoted 19 lines Andrei wrote:> Andrei wrote: > > > > Are you possibly confusing dada with symbolism? > > > > Nope. :-> > > > > Andrei > > > > > Andrei wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Well, that's absolutely not what Dada was about. > > > > Dada was really all about statements and messages and all that. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-04-10 03:56donna summerOk, if we don't want to play nice... One cannot consider the work of the Dadaists without
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Ok, if we don't want to play nice... One cannot consider the work of the Dadaists without considering the evolution of the artistic gesture. So you're telling me that the non-scence plays and books written by the many, many followers of the movement meant nothing in comparison to the insanity they had been forced to live in the war years? Could one think of the Merzbau and not realize the statements and gestures built into the day to day realities of the environment? Could one not see the defiant gestures involved in presenting redymades and collages (in comparison to the academy and all it represented at the time)? That the words and acts themselves are obstruse does not mean that they are indeed meaningless. " DADA is art with neither slippers nor parallels; it is against and for unity and is decidedly against the future." Tristan Tzara Sounds like a statement to me... Donna S PS:Two times in one day this list has proved it's worth!!! Hurray!!
quoted 19 lines Above all else, the Dada Movement was a nihilistic one - denying meaning.>Above all else, the Dada Movement was a nihilistic one - denying meaning. >That is the antithesis of making a statement. > > >Andrei wrote: > > > In a way. I think everything in Dada was a "statement" more so than in > > lots of other art movements. Dada art was about more than just the art > > itself. It wasn't just meaningless art done for "art's sake" (that > > statement is one of my pet peeves, because there's really no such >thing). > > Dada was very much a response to the absurdism of WWI and it was a sneer > > and a slap in the face of convention. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-04-10 05:05Christopher Sorg> " DADA is art with neither slippers nor parallels; it is against and for > unity and is
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quoted 7 lines " DADA is art with neither slippers nor parallels; it is against and for> " DADA is art with neither slippers nor parallels; it is against and for > unity and is decidedly against the future." > Tristan Tzara > > Sounds like a statement to me... > > Donna S
That sentence, you know, is completely illogical. No sense. Nonsense. That doesn't mean it doesn't mean anything. Which is to say that it means nothing at all. Which is fine by me :) _________________________________________ Christopher Sorg Multimedia Artist and Instructor The School of the Art Institute of Chicago http://csorg.cjb.net csorg@artic.edu --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 1/11/02 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org