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2001-11-07 07:29RE: [idm] freestyling (was: Delay at Klubradio)
├─ 2001-11-07 13:00Kath O'Donnell [AliaK] RE: [idm] freestyling -doseone/anticon
└─ 2001-11-07 15:03Greg Clow RE: [idm] freestyling (was: Delay at Klubradio)
└─ 2001-11-07 21:24thorsten Sideb0ard RE: [idm] freestyling (was: Delay at Klubradio)
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2001-11-07 07:29roberbil@earthlink.netA decent MC for the purpose of idm freestylin' would be DoseOne. He did an album with a pr
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A decent MC for the purpose of idm freestylin' would be DoseOne. He did an album with a producer called BoomBip (or Bip Boom I don't remember) that was called cirlces. The production ranges from fairly standard hiphop to really amazing hiphop and acid jazz to pseudo-hardcore and complete ambience. Doseone manages rap over almost all of it, or talk anyway. Some of what he does is free verse poetry or just spoken word but it's allways fairly intelligent and appropriate. Like when he reads the washing directions on a shirt (very rhythmically) it's stupid (and entertaining) but a helluva lot betta then hearing one more MC shout HOLLA! It's really good pseudo rapping and I suggest anyone interested check him out. I'm not sure about the availability or much else about the record though. -peter i think the problem with most emcees (and probably most producers) is that they have this sort of mindset... i mean no offense by this, but this is why hip-hop has become so fucking stagnant in the past, oh, 7 or so years. sure, there's some good stuff coming out, but it's such a small percentage of the overwhelming onslaught of uninspired and derivative garbage that it's made shopping for good rap music like thrift shopping (ironically, it's mostly the older stuff that's the gems!). as far as freestyling goes, a good emcee should be able to freestyle over a washing machine. no- that's a bad example (too rhythmic, maybe). a good emcee should be able to freestyle over merzbow. maybe that's a bad example too... i think you get the point, though. being an emcee is being able to articulate an experience- whether real or surreal- verbally and, regardless of the musical background, he/she should be able to meld with the sounds and allow it to influence his/her delivery or provide contrast to it. about a year ago after a recording session, i was driving with diverse (look for his single on chocolate industries at the end of this month) and listening to oval's szenariodisk. he started freestyling over track 7 (if you have it, get it out and imagine it- it was hot!). anyway, i am by no means saying that the way to advance hip-hop is to get real experimental and far out and have someone rhyme over morton subotnick or something, but perhaps that's because i know most hip-hop heads are such purists that they would denounce it as backpacker shit anyway... zak _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-11-07 13:00Kath O'Donnell [AliaK]yeah! I caught him a few weeks when he was on tour with Anticon, picked up his 'hemisphere
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yeah! I caught him a few weeks when he was on tour with Anticon, picked up his 'hemispheres' cd - love his style, at first I thought he was too nasally or maybe it was the accent, but then as he kept going and I listened to the lyrics I really started to like it.. speaks so much faster than many of the emcees I've seen before and has great stage presence - heaps of energy and expression.. Jel's beats are nice too.. the only other mc's I like are MC Conrad with LTJ Bukem, and one of the locals here - Cameron James Brown/MC Sureshock - both have lovely rhythmical lyrical styles.
quoted 148 lines A decent MC for the purpose of idm freestylin' would be> > A decent MC for the purpose of idm freestylin' would be > DoseOne. He did an album with a producer called BoomBip (or > Bip Boom I > don't remember) that was called cirlces. The production > ranges from fairly > standard hiphop to really amazing hiphop and acid jazz to > pseudo-hardcore and > complete ambience. Doseone manages rap over almost all of > it, or talk > anyway. Some of what he does is free verse poetry or just > spoken word but > it's allways fairly intelligent and appropriate. Like when he > reads the washing > directions on a shirt (very rhythmically) it's stupid (and > entertaining) but a > helluva lot betta then hearing one more MC shout HOLLA! > > It's really good pseudo rapping and I suggest anyone > interested check > him out. > > I'm not sure about the availability or much else about the record > though. > > > > -peter > > > > > > > > i think the problem with most emcees (and probably most > producers) is that > > > they have this sort of mindset... i mean no offense by this, > but this is > why > > hip-hop has become so fucking stagnant in the past, oh, 7 or > so years. > sure, > > there's some good stuff coming out, but it's such a small > percentage of the > > > overwhelming onslaught of uninspired and derivative garbage > that it's made > > > shopping for good rap music like thrift shopping (ironically, > it's mostly > > > the older stuff that's the gems!). > > > > as far as freestyling goes, a good emcee should be able to > freestyle over a > > > washing machine. no- that's a bad example (too rhythmic, > maybe). a good > > > emcee should be able to freestyle over merzbow. maybe that's > a bad example > > > too... i think you get the point, though. being an emcee is > being able to > > > articulate an experience- whether real or surreal- verbally > and, regardless > > > of the musical background, he/she should be able to meld with > the sounds > and > > allow it to influence his/her delivery or provide contrast to it. > > > > about a year ago after a recording session, i was driving > with diverse > (look > > for his single on chocolate industries at the end of this month) and > > listening to oval's szenariodisk. he started freestyling over > track 7 (if > > > you have it, get it out and imagine it- it was hot!). > > > > anyway, i am by no means saying that the way to advance > hip-hop is to get > > > real experimental and far out and have someone rhyme over > morton subotnick > > > or something, but perhaps that's because i know most hip-hop > heads are such > > > purists that they would denounce it as backpacker shit anyway... > > > > zak > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > >
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2001-11-07 15:03Greg ClowAt 02:29 AM 07/11/01, you wrote: >A decent MC for the purpose of idm freestylin' would be
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At 02:29 AM 07/11/01, you wrote:
quoted 5 lines A decent MC for the purpose of idm freestylin' would be>A decent MC for the purpose of idm freestylin' would be >DoseOne. He did an album with a producer called BoomBip (or Bip Boom I >don't remember) that was called cirlces. The production ranges from fairly >standard hiphop to really amazing hiphop and acid jazz to pseudo-hardcore and >complete ambience.
Yeah, that's a great record. It's on a label called Mush that has put out a lot of great "avant-hip-hop", including the amazing series of 10" EPs by cLOUDDEAD that were issued on CD earlier this year by Big Dada/Ninja Tune. Check out the Mush site at http://www.dirtyloop.com/ Greg PS: I'm listening to Zero 7 "Simple Things", and while it's nice, I can't help thinking "I liked this better the first time I heard it - when it was called Air". Anyone with me? --- Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - greg@feedbackmonitor.com concert & event promotions - http://www.stainedproductions.com electronic music radio/reviews/interviews - http://www.feedbackmonitor.com 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 - Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-11-07 21:24thorsten Sideb0ard> >A decent MC for the purpose of idm freestylin' would be > >DoseOne. He did an album wit
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quoted 6 lines A decent MC for the purpose of idm freestylin' would be> >A decent MC for the purpose of idm freestylin' would be > >DoseOne. He did an album with a producer called BoomBip (or Bip Boom I > >don't remember) that was called cirlces. The production ranges from fairly > >standard hiphop to really amazing hiphop and acid jazz to pseudo-hardcore and > >complete ambience. >
Theres also the new Hood album Cold House (on Aesthetics) which features DoseOne on three tracks. I haven't check it out yet, but i really like a lot of their stuff. Heres da bumf from Insound: "Melding organic and inorganic elements, noise and melody, Cold House doesn't hide from any musical opportunity, giving further exclamation of Hood's love of many styles of music. This willingness peaks with the collaboration on three tracks with California hip-hop reconstructionists DoseOne (cLOUDDEAD, Ninja Tune, Anticon) and Why? (cLOUDDEAD, Anticon), as well as fully embracing the contemporary electronic movement of Autechre, Prefuse 73/Savath+Savalas, Nobukazu Takemura and the Schematic label." -thor --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org