On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Josh Bown wrote:
quoted 6 lines OK... I tried to resist... but here comes some sure-to-be flame bait.
> OK... I tried to resist... but here comes some sure-to-be flame bait.
>
> basically, neither the indie rock scene, nor the raver/IDM scene will
> survive on their own. Both suck for various reasons including pacifers,
> drug abuse, repetitive no-talent boring music and shows, baggie pants
> arrogance, artsyness, mod-squad, cliquey crap fashion police etc....
what kind of black hole are you living in?????
Since when do IDm listeners wear baggy pants and sport the raver logo on
thier foreheads??? Pacifiers are commonly found in the RAVE scen nothing
to do with the IDM or mircosound worlds...
drug abouse is all over the place just visit any large city....
nothing is truly repetative but rahter all loops change sublty and its the
ablity to have large listening ears is what your problem is....
again baggy pant = ravers not some one whos interested in IDM
arrogance is found in all part of western culture (in fact one might call
you arrogant)...
artsyness what is wrong with this I find creativty to be some thing that
drives the world as we know it shall we all be couch potatoes???
I dont know much about clique fashion police but this again is aproblem
with our culture in the wester world as a whole I wouldnt say its a
problem with youth subculture per say more a problem of over marketing
products towards a particular group of people...
quoted 2 lines We need to combine forces to create a new art form....
>
> We need to combine forces to create a new art form....
speaking of arrogant statements... who are you arthur kroker??
quoted 3 lines I am coming from the indie experimental rock side.
>
> I am coming from the indie experimental rock side.
>
you would be surprzed how many of us have also!!!
quoted 2 lines You are coming from the raver side.
> You are coming from the raver side.
>
says who???? Ihave zero interest in raves!!!
Last rave I went to was back in 98
quoted 3 lines We need your techno power, trance-induction psychic techniques of
> We need your techno power, trance-induction psychic techniques of
> synthesis.
>
drop the trance and add the electro and then your talking...
oh and that whole psychic shit is bogus!!
quoted 2 lines You need our musical skills, integrity, cred, emotions and performance.
> You need our musical skills, integrity, cred, emotions and performance.
>
says who Im a trains composure in contemporary composition!
quoted 2 lines Together we can take over the music world!!!!
> Together we can take over the music world!!!!
>
keep on dreaming...
quoted 4 lines kind of like voltron
> kind of like voltron
>
> end rant... peace....
>
personally I would rather see full on bloddy war then whimpy peace and
full and shit like that!!!
Neil..
quoted 20 lines Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:47:37 -0700
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> > Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:47:37 -0700
> > To: eamitch@learnlink.emory.edu
> > From: "Julia Matusov" <ulia5@hotmail.com>
> > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: [idm] What do you expect from IDM musicians on stage?
> > Message-ID: <LAW2-F1370QUUBPcZi700000521@hotmail.com>
> >
> > God, I never write so much to this list...i barely read it... but what the
> > hell. Coldcut is fucking insane live. Both visually and musically. Its one
> > big yummy treat. I went by myself in San Francisco and thought it was one of
> > the best shows I've ever been to.
> > I hear you, Erica, on the semi-baggy pants bit :) I hate feeling that super
> > stiff arrogant artsy indie rock feel seeping its way into electronic shows.
> > Thank god it ain't all like that.
>
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