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1994-01-26 07:02Harvey Thornburg Stuff
1994-01-27 02:56Harvey Thornburg Re: Stuff
1994-01-27 12:52greggy303 Stuff
1994-01-28 09:11drn Re: Stuff
1994-01-28 23:21greggy303 Re: Stuff
1994-06-01 11:38Kiyan Azarbar stuff
1995-02-06 14:02CiM Stuff
2000-09-19 06:58christopher [idm] stuff
2000-12-05 05:28Andrew Hime Re: [idm] sheesh Re: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
├─ 2000-12-05 05:53diverse_genders Re: [idm] sheesh Re: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
├─ 2000-12-05 06:22EggyToast Re: [idm] sheesh Re: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
└─ 2000-12-05 06:28Wendy K [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
├─ 2000-12-05 07:27Konstantin Minko RE: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
└─ 2000-12-05 22:14Lee Azzarello Re: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
2000-12-05 17:19Ross Balmer Re: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
├─ 2000-12-05 22:17Alien RE: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
└─ 2000-12-06 07:07Konstantin Minko RE: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
2000-12-06 12:22Ross Balmer Re: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
├─ 2000-12-06 14:00Konstantin Minko RE: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
├─ 2000-12-06 18:45Medium Graham [idm] stuff
└─ 2000-12-07 02:09Medium Graham [idm] stuff
└─ 2000-12-08 07:43Irene McC Re: [idm] stuff
2002-09-23 21:10kurt [idm] stuff
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1994-01-26 07:02Harvey ThornburgSome stuff I've been listening to recently... just posted this to alt.music.techno... Enjo
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Harvey Thornburg
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Tue, 25 Jan 1994 23:02:48 -0800 (PST)
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Some stuff I've been listening to recently... just posted this to alt.music.techno... Enjoy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- B12: Electro-Soma - well-defined depth in some places, good track progression making for easy listening. Redcell:Stasis - more experimental then their earlier one (Electro-soma), the b-12 guys approach the delicate border between elegant, involved compositions and willful self-limitation. Black Dog Productions: Temple of Transparent Balls - probably the most completely composed record yet in this genre, not in the least annoyingly repetitive like "Bytes". Some tracks may suffer from lack of breathing room; however, clear sound helps channel the multiple synth lines into a single brain massage. Aphex Twin: On 2xEP - Amusingly challenges the boundaries of listenability, but worth listening to nonetheless. The title track + remixes, and "D-scape"(orig. mix) make further steps towards introducing depth into Richard's music as some of the Polygon Window stuff ... true, AB#3 was brilliant in its own right for sheer sonic invention, but he needs to go somewhere with it. However, if he can bring this industrial/noisy stuff to the masses then I'm all for it. Air: S/T One of the virtually beatless Namlook things (just him). At first I thought it was a bit too derivative of midperiod Tangerine Dream but realizing since that's not really valid grounds for objection, and I have no others, I have simply deferred to its beauty. The Orb: Live 93 - No, I don't think this is crap unlike most people when it came out. Sure the sound quality suffers, but hey - it's a live album! Does sound amusingly like Throbbing Gristle circa 1981, however... What I wanna know is when they're going to write some _new_ songs. O Yuki Conjugate: Undercurrents in Dark Water - Not really "techno" by current standards (more of an experimental/newage/tribal crossover) but constructed similarly. Mixes quite well into the above for listening. Christoph Heemann: Invisible Barrier - As above, wouldn't exactly classify this as "techno" but anyway it's kind of like the Orb with no beats, and just as good. /-oOOo------------oOOo-\ --------------------------/------------------------\-------------------------- "the only constant / Harvey D. Thornburg \ "the only certainty thing is change" / \ is uncertainty" / hthornbu@osiris.ac.hmc.edu \ ------------------------------------------------------------
1994-01-27 02:56Harvey ThornburgStephen Hebditch wrote: > > In article <199401260702.XAA11489@osiris.ac.hmc.edu>, > Harvey
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Harvey Thornburg
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Wed, 26 Jan 1994 18:56:00 -0800 (PST)
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Stephen Hebditch wrote:
quoted 10 lines In article <199401260702.XAA11489@osiris.ac.hmc.edu>,> > In article <199401260702.XAA11489@osiris.ac.hmc.edu>, > Harvey Thornburg <Harvey_Thornburg@hmc.edu> wrote: > >Redcell:Stasis - more experimental then their earlier one (Electro-soma), the > > b-12 guys approach the delicate border between elegant, involved > > compositions and willful self-limitation. > > It's not just B12. The first Redcell half is by Golding and Rutter, the > second (I think more interesting) Stasis half by Steve Picton. >
Sounds like Mr. Pickford is at least using the same instruments/patches though. Plus it doesn't sound all that different but like you said, the Stasis half is more interesting. Personally I lump the entirety of this stuff under B12.
quoted 3 lines --> -- > Stephen Hebditch TQM Communications steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk >
/-oOOo------------oOOo-\ --------------------------/------------------------\-------------------------- "the only constant / Harvey D. Thornburg \ "the only certainty thing is change" / \ is uncertainty" / hthornbu@osiris.ac.hmc.edu \ ------------------------------------------------------------
1994-01-27 12:52greggy303On Thu, 27 Jan 1994, ma93ben wrote: > Stuff on Stealth Records (such as Space Trax. The la
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greggy303
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Thu, 27 Jan 1994 13:52:54 +0100 (BST)
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On Thu, 27 Jan 1994, ma93ben wrote:
quoted 2 lines Stuff on Stealth Records (such as Space Trax. The label`s put out Speedy J> Stuff on Stealth Records (such as Space Trax. The label`s put out Speedy J > as well)
Haven't got any totally recent stuff on Stealth, but the older Space Trax are v.good and some of the Exposure stuff too.
quoted 1 line Suburban Knight (transmat)> Suburban Knight (transmat)
Classic tune. A must for techno heads. I think there is some new stuff too.
quoted 6 lines Also: Reload`s album is better than the On remix. The On mix is more> Also: Reload`s album is better than the On remix. The On mix is more > accessible but the album covers so much ground and is serious, quality > stuff. It goes from slightly mad avant-techno like Mosh and Event Horizon to > beautiful strings-laden hip-hop-beat-using sunrise trax like Le Soleil Et La > Mer, to pure ambience on tracks like The Enlightenment. > Definitely one of the best albums of 1993.
Yeah, I'm at last begining to warm up towards _Short...._. I wasn't to impressed at first, it took some listening too. It's a lot more subtle that most, there's no way you can expect to just plonk the needle down in the middle of a track and appreciate it, they all build neatly, with nice use of strings (which seems very popular at the moment BTW). The track TEQ is an absolute killer, if it had been released as a 12" it would have been in my top 5. I only wish it was longer tho' (the hard bit's at least!). (Your bro fancy doing a remix version Ben?) greggy303 3030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303 303 Greg Eden, Physics Department | g.l.eden@ncl.ac.uk 303 303 Herschel Building, University of Newcastle |303 Forever. Long live Acid!303 3030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303
1994-01-28 09:11drnRe: The Collection of Short Stories... Greg... the TEQ on the collection... is in fact a p
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Fri, 28 Jan 1994 09:11:33 +0000 (GMT)
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Re: The Collection of Short Stories... Greg... the TEQ on the collection... is in fact a partial remix of the original Teque on the first Autoreload EP (Evolution EV002)... Future Global communication - Reload plans are... New Evolution album... Ob-selon mi-nos EP... plus others to be disclosed... B
1994-01-28 23:21greggy303On Fri, 28 Jan 1994, drn wrote: > Re: The Collection of Short Stories... > > Greg... the T
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greggy303
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Fri, 28 Jan 1994 23:21:09 +0000 (GMT)
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On Fri, 28 Jan 1994, drn wrote:
quoted 4 lines Re: The Collection of Short Stories...> Re: The Collection of Short Stories... > > Greg... the TEQ on the collection... is in fact a partial remix of the > original Teque on the first Autoreload EP (Evolution EV002)...
A ha! I've had the first evolution release ev001, the biosphere thing for ages, the track with the whale samples had been a favorite for a while and when I listened to _Akinzor_ on the LP, I thought 'ello this sounds familiar... Bloody hell, that's cheeky, they've sampled the whole track! It was then I finally twigged that these Reloads were one and the same. Durrrrr.
quoted 1 line New Evolution album... Ob-selon mi-nos EP... plus others to be disclosed...> New Evolution album... Ob-selon mi-nos EP... plus others to be disclosed...
Can't wait... Discovered another goody on Short stories... _Event Horizon_, get that mad drum machine... greggy303 3030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303 303 Greg Eden, Physics Department | g.l.eden@ncl.ac.uk 303 303 Herschel Building, University of Newcastle |303 Forever. Long live Acid!303 3030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303030303
1994-06-01 11:38Kiyan AzarbarOk, let me rephrase my original question: WHEN is Colourform going to be released on Wavef
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Kiyan Azarbar
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Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:38:57 +0100
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Ok, let me rephrase my original question: WHEN is Colourform going to be released on Waveform? It obviously hasn't been yet, no one can find it. Kiyan Azarbar | "True love is the greatest thing in the world. alatar@zeus.achilles.net | Except for a nice MLT -- Mutton, Lettuce & Tomato ai245@freenet.carleton.ca | sandwich, when the mutton is nice and lean... Ottawa, ON, Canada | mmmmmm.... they're so perky." --- Miracle Max
1995-02-06 14:02CiMThe Aphex Twin : Classics (R&S) If you hate analogue synths, you'll like this one; merely
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CiM
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IDM
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Mon, 6 Feb 1995 14:02:40 +0000 (GMT)
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The Aphex Twin : Classics (R&S) If you hate analogue synths, you'll like this one; merely because for the most part, it is their death-rattle. Richard D. James flanges, filters, distorts and generally tortures his equipment to create some of the most fucked sounds around. This is the sound of the experimental tracks from _SAW2_ put through a mincer and slapped onto some of the most hideous beats ever. For this reason alone, it is unmissable. However, if you have some of these tracks already, you should know that the rest are pretty much the same; not that they're unoriginal or crap but that they are _all_ noisy, intense pieces of aural shrapnel. This LP leaves large amounts of cranial scar-tissue and I reccomend it most vigorously. Don't however, buy it for the bonus live version of _Digeridoo_ which is crap. Oh, and try to get the limited edition light blue transluscent vinyl version so you can pretend to small children that you are eating a large mint. Or something. Jedi Knights : May the Funk be With You (Clear) The Reload lads go electro in a funk stylee. One of the tracks could be off of a funkier _Collection of Short Stories_; the other ain't half as entertaining unfortunately. It works together quite nicely tho' and if it is representative of the forthcoming Clear releases, I'll be a very happy bunny indeed. Mike Paradinas' _Bantha Trax_ (under the name Tuscen Raiders) is the next release; can't bloody wait... V/A : Trance Atlantic Another top quality TEX compilation; this time, showcasing US talent. You should know what they're like by now and this is no exception; just top quality tunes and one of the most informative magazine-type booklets around. Highlights are the swoosy Curtin track and (as always) the Carl Craig one. Patrick Pulsinger : Dogmatic Sequences II (Disko B) Some startlingly good techno that draws it's influence from just about everywhere. Distorted, jazzy stomps merge with 70s cop show themes for a full on, extremely funky EP. These tracks have an energy about them thats hard to describe; each one ends up being incredibly fun and pretty thoughtful simultaneously. Pulsinger is a guy to watch out for... Sluts'n Strings & 909 : Steamin' Promises EP (Cheap) ...and here's another reason why. This EP dumps the techno side of _Dogmatic..._ and jumps into bed with Chicago house and some more crazy jazz n'disco samples. The end result is a more danceable 12, even funkier than before. What also makes this extremely desireable is the image on the label. It's a picture of Barry Gibb and Barbara Streisand; Gibb has the word 'cheap' printed across his neck. Buybuybuy. LA Synthesis : Agraphobia (Plink Plonk) I was relatively unimpressed on the first listen, but this one creeps up on you fairly slowly. Vague acidity and the distant richness of melody combine for a comfortable housey ride. Flip it over for a rhythmic, experimental workout and a final weightless, ambient journey into the land of lush Roland pads. Nothing outstandingly original, but hey, who cares; this is mediocrity at it's most enjoyable V/A : Out There - A Thread Through Time (T&B) A massive 4LP compilation of intelligent, well chosen electronica by Twitch and Brainstorm. This comp brings together tracks from the ambient-industrial, IDM and experimental areas and each one compliments the others brilliantly. It's quite a dark compilation though and jumps straight in with the opening track, :Zoviet France:'s predatory _Synaesthetica_. The highlight's include the 0 tracks and the brilliant _Dancing Ghosts_, the first ever 303/808 track from the year 1983. The Black Dog track is unusually simplistic and accessible; still ace though. A number of the artists featured here are from the Mighty Reel studios, so at times it reads like a roll-call for Edinburgh talent. Despite this showcasing, _Out There_ is an amazing and unusual compilation. The variety of tracks is immense, yet they all go together so well; the mark of a well thought out compilation. Like A Tim : Audio Art (Djax Upbeats) More quirky, likeable lunacy from Like A Tim. No great departure from his other releases but if you like his stuff, here's some more of the same. Like A Tim stuff makes me grin. Autocreation : ? (Inter Modo - Promo) Two tracks, _Tomato Dawn_ and _Bone_; both of which are dark, mysterious, repetitive and faintly menacing. Locust and chums use dark, evolving atmospheres and slowly build each track to paranoid effect. Accomplished, yes; but ultimately too damn scary to listen to. Edge of Motion : Memories of the Future (New Electronica[?] - Promo) White promo with no label details; the cat. looks like a New Electronica one though. The first track has a sea of warm, lush pads and floating amidst it is a lazy, hip-hop beat. Think of Yantra's _The Birth of the Stars_ and you'll be there. The flip has a minimal, drier Air Liquide sound to it; fairly forgettable. The A-side is highly recommended however; I'm a sucker for lushness and spliffed out 'hop beats. || [CiM] || u9323899@sys.uea.ac.uk || http://www.sys.uea.ac.uk/~u9323899/
2000-09-19 06:58christopher> > Look what drugs have done for music, and appreciate it. > > Yeah, you _should_ look at
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quoted 8 lines Look what drugs have done for music, and appreciate it.> > Look what drugs have done for music, and appreciate it. > > Yeah, you _should_ look at what drugs have done for music and look > at all the wasted talent throughout history. Sure drugs can have > certain effects on the creation of music (not speaking from > personal experience), but artists compose amazing music because > they're extremely talented, not because they were stoned or drunk > while composing.
for sure, drugs don't make people creative. the way i see it is that they (they being alcohol and marijuana because i have no experience with any others) along with some other slight effects, bring out more of who you are by decreasing inhibitions, increasing confidence. moreso with marijuana; so an annoying person usually just gets more annoying, a creative person gets more interesting/creative (not that they are now having more interesting thoughts, although usually they can focus on and develop them more quickly, although then attention spans are sometimes shortened), etc. so i think being stoned can allow one to focus on thoughts (& therefore images & sounds) and the creative act more (for one who is already creative). personally i've still never made music under any influence, don't know why, probably because i'm not often on something and alone, but it's not at all necessary to enter the music-creation process. and if it is, then i can't imagine the music being made while stoned or not by that person being very interesting.
quoted 5 lines I was watching an interview with "jazz legend" and ex-drug consumer Lee> I was watching an interview with "jazz legend" and ex-drug consumer Lee > Konitz recently and he was saying that music created under the > influence needs to be listened to under the influence for it to sound > as good as it did while you were creating it and that it usually > sounds terrible when you listen back to it and you're not stoned.
really strange. i don't think that's true. i've heard autechre usually compose stoned and it doesn't lose anything in the conversion "back to reality". although do you leave reality or just another way of looking at and thinking about it? if it is so much better while stoned, their stuff must be more amazing than anything ever while stoned! =)
quoted 3 lines Watching some guy click a mouse isn't exciting. Watching someone like> >Watching some guy click a mouse isn't exciting. Watching someone like > >Lexaunculpt isn't riveting, but I find watching four guys plucking > >strings and hitting drums to be just as boring.
about all this live stuff, i think electronic musicians are still searching for a way to do a really good live show. the ones that combine acoustic instruments and electronics like matmos, and mom (haven't seen their show though) are successful i think. for all-electronics, something needs to be done. first, most don't want or know how to improvise, and the improvisation of one person on all these 'instruments' usually can't come out as good as when they sit down and detailedly edit for hours. so multi-person electronics 'bands' are more likely. they need a new interface, not a laptop keyboard, and they need to want to play in a different way than editing on a computer. so playing live probably isn't for everyone. anyone who can build some interesting control device should do it, it's desired and could make a lot of money. i don't know what it could be though, well i've thought about it and have some ideas but still, what could you actually make detailed electronic music in realtime with (with 3 other people if need be). we've actually done it, completely improvised electronic music made as you hear it from the speakers, but the interfaces are still not that interesting to watch - synth keyboards, computer keyboards, mice, knobs on effects boxes. it's good. look for it on an upcoming kracfive release. but would you like to watch 3 guys running around either playing notes on keyboards or quick keyboard typing and knob turning? of course the other problem is it was all in a "studio", so dragging all this gear to a venue (or on tour!) is so much more stressful and difficult than a laptop+radio+effects. then there's the Cex approach. which is not as much musical performance but rather reallife acting performance. go to those shows he mentioned, he's got some fat humor under his belt and up his sleevie, some sarcastic devil he is. full of guts. it's really funny and even if you dont think so, at least he's got your attention eh?
quoted 1 line I've just noticed that "West" was reissued on CD. And this fact has woken> I've just noticed that "West" was reissued on CD. And this fact has woken
up
quoted 1 line my long timed interest in this collective (or person) The only thing I've> my long timed interest in this collective (or person) The only thing I've
yes, get it
quoted 2 lines The problem with most IDM and electronic music nowadays is that the human> The problem with most IDM and electronic music nowadays is that the human > feel and sound has been taken out of it. Now that everyone is using
trackers
quoted 1 line and software of the sort, MIDI has been gridded and segmented so everything> and software of the sort, MIDI has been gridded and segmented so everything
quoted 2 lines is programed and sounds like it is right out of a computer. This really> is programed and sounds like it is right out of a computer. This really > shortens the lengths to which electronic music can be taken.
you warped lunatic! a segment always has a midpoint, and the two new segments have midpoints and... not enough people use the midpoints? not enough people use non-default settings? nothing to do with the tools. christawienfwahwenmemiemumopher __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-05 05:28Andrew Hime>we're all too busy watching the new version of dune, >playing macmame, and buying records
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quoted 5 lines we're all too busy watching the new version of dune,>we're all too busy watching the new version of dune, >playing macmame, and buying records from skimo to >actually *talk* about this stuff with smelly boys. > >move over, fucker, that's _my_ stereo.
A more important question is why don't cute boys like IDM? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-05 05:53diverse_gendersOn Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Andrew Hime wrote: > >we're all too busy watching the new version of d
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Andrew Hime wrote:
quoted 7 lines we're all too busy watching the new version of dune,> >we're all too busy watching the new version of dune, > >playing macmame, and buying records from skimo to > >actually *talk* about this stuff with smelly boys. > > > >move over, fucker, that's _my_ stereo. > > A more important question is why don't cute boys like IDM?
cus they get yelled at by jason for liking planet mu comps! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-05 06:22EggyToastAt 11:28 PM 12/4/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >we're all too busy watching the new version of
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At 11:28 PM 12/4/2000 -0600, you wrote:
quoted 8 lines we're all too busy watching the new version of dune,> >we're all too busy watching the new version of dune, > >playing macmame, and buying records from skimo to > >actually *talk* about this stuff with smelly boys. > > > >move over, fucker, that's _my_ stereo. > > >A more important question is why don't cute boys like IDM?
oh, but we do! :D --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-05 06:28Wendy Khere here, i'm available for musical discussions in london in real life anytime with eithe
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here here, i'm available for musical discussions in london in real life anytime with either sex. but you have to look as geek as me otherwise i wont talk to you. plus if yr trainers dont match yr music yr history. At 11:28 pm -0600 4/12/00, Andrew Hime wrote:
quoted 8 lines we're all too busy watching the new version of dune,> >we're all too busy watching the new version of dune, > >playing macmame, and buying records from skimo to > >actually *talk* about this stuff with smelly boys. > > > >move over, fucker, that's _my_ stereo. > > >A more important question is why don't cute boys like IDM?
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2000-12-05 07:27Konstantin MinkoWell, I do understand what Joe's talking about. Though I'm absolutely not supportive of hi
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Well, I do understand what Joe's talking about. Though I'm absolutely not supportive of his sexist approach I got to admit that I've never met a girl who likes idm as well... I know that this is only my problem yet it is sad but true... Alien lifeform. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-05 22:14Lee Azzarelloon 12/4/00 10:28 PM, Wendy K at wendy@ninjatune.net wrote: > here here, i'm available for
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on 12/4/00 10:28 PM, Wendy K at wendy@ninjatune.net wrote:
quoted 37 lines here here, i'm available for musical discussions in> here here, i'm available for musical discussions in > london in real life anytime with either sex. but you > have to look as geek as me otherwise i wont talk to you. > > plus if yr trainers dont match yr music yr history. > > > > At 11:28 pm -0600 4/12/00, Andrew Hime wrote: >>> we're all too busy watching the new version of dune, >>> playing macmame, and buying records from skimo to >>> actually *talk* about this stuff with smelly boys. >>> >>> move over, fucker, that's _my_ stereo. >> >> >> A more important question is why don't cute boys like IDM? > > _______________________________________________________________________ > SOLID STEEL - THE BROADEST BEATS - COLDCUT & FRIENDS BROADCASTING LIVE > > Three ways to listen: > > LIVE ON THE RADIO - BBC London Live > 94.9FM, Monday, Midnight to 2AM BST > > LIVE ON THE WEB - BBC London Live Website > http://www.bbc.co.uk/londonlive > > Archive of ALL Mixes - Ninja Tune Website > http://www.ninjatune.net/solidsteel > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
I know plenty of girls that like IDM. In fact, if anyone went to the Kid606 show at the Knitting Factory in LA, you would have seen many females, dressed up/dressed down, *not* necessarily hanging on their boyfriends arm, digging the music. I don't think many girls really *care* about dorky boys drooling over synths, but I know plenty of *boys* that don't care about dorky boys drooling over synths. If the music is interesting in any way beyond how it was created, there will be people that are attracted to it. The only reason there's this geeky boys club elitism is from a bunch of people that get so involved in their little programming world they temporarily lose track of their social skills (I say this out of experience). Then there are the affected intellectual wannabes...who are very wack. -l -l[e^2] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-05 17:19Ross BalmerAre you all blind, there are a load of them on this list! Ross. ----- Original Message ---
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Are you all blind, there are a load of them on this list! Ross. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Konstantin Minko" <ibss@ukrpack.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 7:27 AM Subject: RE: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
quoted 2 lines Well, I do understand what Joe's talking about. Though I'm absolutely not> Well, I do understand what Joe's talking about. Though I'm absolutely not > supportive of his sexist approach I got to admit that I've never met a
girl
quoted 10 lines who likes idm as well... I know that this is only my problem yet it is sad> who likes idm as well... I know that this is only my problem yet it is sad > but true... > > Alien lifeform. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-12-05 22:17AlienWho said I ever met a single person from this list? Nor a man neither a woman. I'm so fuck
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Who said I ever met a single person from this list? Nor a man neither a woman. I'm so fucking far away from all of you! And, yes I'm kinda blind as I wear rather strong spectacles... Alien.
quoted 39 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Ross Balmer [mailto:ross@tui.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 7:19 PM > To: IDM > Subject: Re: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM? > > > Are you all blind, there are a load of them on this list! > > Ross. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Konstantin Minko" <ibss@ukrpack.net> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 7:27 AM > Subject: RE: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM? > > > > Well, I do understand what Joe's talking about. Though I'm > absolutely not > > supportive of his sexist approach I got to admit that I've never met a > girl > > who likes idm as well... I know that this is only my problem > yet it is sad > > but true... > > > > Alien lifeform. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-12-06 07:07Konstantin MinkoWho said I ever met anyone from this list?!? Neither a man, nor a girl... I'm so fucking f
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Who said I ever met anyone from this list?!? Neither a man, nor a girl... I'm so fucking far away from all of you! And, Yes I'm kinda blind as I wear rather strong spectacles... Alien
quoted 39 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Ross Balmer [mailto:ross@tui.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 7:19 PM > To: IDM > Subject: Re: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM? > > > Are you all blind, there are a load of them on this list! > > Ross. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Konstantin Minko" <ibss@ukrpack.net> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 7:27 AM > Subject: RE: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM? > > > > Well, I do understand what Joe's talking about. Though I'm > absolutely not > > supportive of his sexist approach I got to admit that I've never met a > girl > > who likes idm as well... I know that this is only my problem > yet it is sad > > but true... > > > > Alien lifeform. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-12-06 12:22Ross BalmerWell I take it you do read the occasional post? Do you think people with names like Sharon
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Well I take it you do read the occasional post? Do you think people with names like Sharon, Irene or Jasmine (to pick but a few) are especially likely to be male? Ross. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alien" <ibss@ukrpack.net> To: "idm list" <idm@hyperreal.org>; "Ross Balmer" <ross@tuimedia.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 10:17 PM Subject: RE: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
quoted 2 lines Who said I ever met a single person from this list? Nor a man neither a> Who said I ever met a single person from this list? Nor a man neither a > woman. I'm so fucking far away from all of you! And, yes I'm kinda blind
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quoted 5 lines I wear rather strong spectacles...> I wear rather strong spectacles... > > Alien. > >
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2000-12-06 14:00Konstantin MinkoI don't get it. Sorry my English is too bad for that. First I said I had never met a girl
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I don't get it. Sorry my English is too bad for that. First I said I had never met a girl who likes idm (without mentioning stupid sexist approaches). Then you say I'm blind if I do not see other girls on this list. In response I say that though I'm perfectly sure there ARE girls who like idm and some of them I had correspondence with (i.e. Irene MC is extremely nice person) but I have never met any person from this list anyway as I live in Ukraine and it seems that I'm the only listmemeber from here. So.... What does your last message mean? Why do you mention males? Sorry I'm probably too stupid to get that. 8)
quoted 34 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Ross Balmer [mailto:ross@tui.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 2:23 PM > To: IDM > Subject: Re: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM? > > > Well I take it you do read the occasional post? Do you think people with > names like Sharon, Irene or Jasmine (to pick but a few) are especially > likely to be male? > > Ross. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alien" <ibss@ukrpack.net> > To: "idm list" <idm@hyperreal.org>; "Ross Balmer" <ross@tuimedia.co.uk> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 10:17 PM > Subject: RE: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM? > > > > Who said I ever met a single person from this list? Nor a man neither a > > woman. I'm so fucking far away from all of you! And, yes I'm kinda blind > as > > I wear rather strong spectacles... > > > > Alien. > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-12-06 18:45Medium GrahamSome stuff: > Well I take it you do read the occasional post? Do you think people with > n
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Some stuff:
quoted 5 lines Well I take it you do read the occasional post? Do you think people with> Well I take it you do read the occasional post? Do you think people with > names like Sharon, Irene or Jasmine (to pick but a few) are especially > likely to be male? > > Ross.
That's pretty funny!
quoted 3 lines You're right! I'm gonna go get a PC. I'd much rather have DOS be> You're right! I'm gonna go get a PC. I'd much rather have DOS be > the roots of my OS. > :P
So's this! The whole reason I don't use a Mac or NT is because I ENJOY USING DOS!! =). Anyway...my housemate just came home with a copy of the new BoC ep. IMO it's very disappointing, all very repetitive and not changing very much all the way through each track. I realise that a lot of people might like this, and maybe the changes are too subtle for me to notice on a single listen. Irritating. On the other hand, I'm really feeling the Marshall Mathers LP. Dre's productions is great as usual except for the cheesy synth-cello sound on 'Kim'. That said, 'Kim' is the most angry track I've heard for a long while. Makes my scalp tingle each time it plays. G-love. http://www.gram.org.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-07 02:09Medium Graham> Well I take it you do read the occasional post? Do you think people with > names like Sh
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quoted 5 lines Well I take it you do read the occasional post? Do you think people with> Well I take it you do read the occasional post? Do you think people with > names like Sharon, Irene or Jasmine (to pick but a few) are especially > likely to be male? > > Ross.
That's pretty funny! You never know...(no offence intended, btw)
quoted 3 lines You're right! I'm gonna go get a PC. I'd much rather have DOS be> You're right! I'm gonna go get a PC. I'd much rather have DOS be > the roots of my OS. > :P
So's this! Anyway...my housemate just came home with a copy of the new BoC ep. IMO it's very disappointing, all very repetitive and not changing very much all the way through each track. I realise that a lot of people might like this, and maybe the changes are too subtle for me to notice on a single listen. Irritating. On the other hand, I am really diggin on the Marshall Mathers LP. Dre's productions is great as usual except for the cheesy General MIDI synth-cello sound on 'Kim'. That must be the angriest track I've heard in a long while. Makes my scalp tingle every time it plays. G-love. http://www.gram.org.uk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-08 07:43Irene McCOn 7 Dec 2000, Medium Graham wrote re [idm] stuff: > on 'Kim'. That must be the angriest t
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On 7 Dec 2000, Medium Graham wrote re [idm] stuff:
quoted 2 lines on 'Kim'. That must be the angriest track I've heard in> on 'Kim'. That must be the angriest track I've heard in > a long while. Makes my scalp tingle every time it plays.
Welcome to the Eminem list :-) Is that the one dedicated to the lovely Kimberley, his wife - who was recently rushed to hospital due to a bungled suicide attempt after a Kurt Cobain like dislike at being thrust into the limelight ... ?? Huh ? Wasn't this IDM at some stage ... I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-09-23 21:10kurtwell, i went by the Creative Time event in Brooklyn last week, to see Pole and Scion. It s
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well, i went by the Creative Time event in Brooklyn last week, to see Pole and Scion. It seemed to be someone's art idea to present the musicians in an oblong plexiglass box, isolated from the audience, with videos and slides projected on the plexi surfaces. the projections were culled from a reel of silly 60's american tv commercials and clips from the origial King Kong film. there was something relentlessly american and trivial about the imagery, for better or worse quite at odds with the chilled-out european futurism of the music. Pole's set sounded very nice. The glitching sounds of his broken pole filter seem well behind him these days, and it was a sleek sort of downtempo loungey music he made, more along the general lines of what's coming out of Scape than Pole's older music. He twiddled dials, played melodica, generally looked affable and relaxed, and even bounced up and down a few times. Nonetheless, the plexiglass box won out, the audience basically acted as though a record was on in the background somewhere and blabbed their way loudly through the set, barely applauding at the end. Not because they hadn't liked the music, but because it hadn't seemed like a performance. Scion playing their Basic Channel remix set fared better, functioning more like dj's. People danced rabidly. Scion looked very well-scrubbed and cute there in the plexiglass box, a couple of pilots making a few adjustments as their jumbo jet rumbled across the ocean. It was kinda fun to hear, and I danced for awhile. I gotta say, I haven't been able to get into this project the way I thought I would. The Basic Channel tracks are these great deadpan things, that hover between something and nothing. Chopped up and remixed, they tend to get a lot busier and lose their enigma. ----------------- a new Thomas Brinkman CD appeared at the store today, "Row". It proves to be a collection of previously released tracks from various sources (Ernst and Suppose singles, comp tracks). A few of them are tracks I really love, like "Rhibosomes" and his remix of Brel's "Ne Me Quit Pas" sung by (I think) Nina Simone. One exclusive track, a cute one about brushing teeth. Couple of the Ernst single tracks are alternate versions from the vinyl releases. ------------------ schneider TM 'zoomer' whoa, this ain't like his last album, is it? it's, like, all songs and stuff, kinda more like sarcastic/silly indie rock meets electronica. Lots of vocal harmonies, kinda Holland-period Beach Boys. includes a rap track. has a track about cutting a frog in half but sounds like Air Supply or something, only with glitch-hop rhythms. Hello Frank Zappa. huh. well, it's elaborately crafted and kinda funny. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-09-23 21:42J.P.L'asthme Fawn--- kurt <supine@bway.net> wrote: > schneider TM 'zoomer' > whoa, this ain't like his last
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--- kurt <supine@bway.net> wrote:
quoted 14 lines schneider TM 'zoomer'> schneider TM 'zoomer' > whoa, this ain't like his last album, is it? it's, > like, all songs > and stuff, kinda more like sarcastic/silly indie > rock meets > electronica. Lots of vocal harmonies, kinda > Holland-period Beach > Boys. includes a rap track. has a track about > cutting a frog in half > but sounds like Air Supply or something, only with > glitch-hop > rhythms. Hello Frank Zappa. huh. well, it's > elaborately crafted and > kinda funny.
don't know if i might be hearing it wrong, but i think it's a very emotional album... i wish it were maybe less two songs though because there's two in there that really fuck with the flow in my opinion. really makes me feel nice to be human, along the same lines as dntel, though not as sad or indie rock-ish. gregory ===== )the fawn )"i thought when i started playing )shows i'd meet a lot of really cool )people, but most of the people i've )met just want me to copy software )for them" __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-09-24 09:04DavidASim@aol.com> It seemed to be someone's art idea to present the musicians in an > oblong plexiglass bo
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quoted 3 lines It seemed to be someone's art idea to present the musicians in an> It seemed to be someone's art idea to present the musicians in an > oblong plexiglass box, isolated from the audience, with videos and > slides projected on the plexi surfaces.
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quoted 5 lines Pole's set sounded very nice. <snip> Nonetheless, the plexiglass box> Pole's set sounded very nice. <snip> Nonetheless, the plexiglass box > won out, the audience basically acted as though a record was on in > the background somewhere and blabbed their way loudly through the > set, barely applauding at the end. Not because they hadn't liked the > music, but because it hadn't seemed like a performance.
It's a cool idea though. I wasn't there, but done subtly and possibly with gauze (or something else more permeable than plexiglass) it could be extremely funky, and would also stop disgruntled IDM fans bottling the acts. It might even reduce the number of 'I went to see X, and it was just them standing there pressing play on Cubase and nothing much to look at' threads that crop up. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org