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I have heard talk recently that "any moment now" Warp US is going to be setting up an office in New York and has signed a big fat distribution deal with Caroline. This prompts three questions: 1. Will all Warp releases now be significantly cheaper for those stateside? 2. How much of their catalog will be released in the U.S.? 3. Will this turn out as poorly as the deal with Nothing? bob davis.

bob davis:

quoted 4 lines This prompts three questions:

> This prompts three questions: > > 1. Will all Warp releases now be significantly cheaper for those > stateside?

this prompts one question. how much cheaper exactly do you want them? i bought the _trainer_ 2cd in a store for $19.99. this is probably cheaper than you would get them in a store in england. the last two us released double cds i bought cost around $23 each. i routinely see british warp single cds for about $17 - $18, whereas non-sale us cds cost around $16. so if they were released in the states, then you'd probably save about one or two dollars. not exactly what i would call significantly cheaper. -martin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 09:28 AM 8/9/2000 -0400, martin burbridge wrote:

quoted 12 lines bob davis:

>bob davis: > > > This prompts three questions: > > > > 1. Will all Warp releases now be significantly cheaper for those > > stateside? > >this prompts one question. how much cheaper exactly do you want them? i >bought the _trainer_ 2cd in a store for $19.99. this is probably cheaper >than you would get them in a store in england. the last two us released >double cds i bought cost around $23 each. i routinely see british warp >single cds for about $17 - $18, whereas non-sale us cds cost around $16.

I tend to agree with Martin here. I picked up Trainer for $19.99 and Mira Calix "One on One" for $12.99. I really don't think we're getting aped in the US over warp releases. Rusty --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

all i can say about u.s. record prices is - they are cheaper than anywhere else, especially when you consider the exchange rates of countries. you can go to virgin mexastore on oxford street in london, and pay £12.99 for a CD, sure, but then multiply it by the exchange rate of $1.50+-a few cents & the cost of your airfare, see what I'm sayin...this comes from years of ravaging l.a. and san fran cut out bins, obscure towns in the middle of nowhere for obtuse American soul, soundtracks, lounge music pre-idm. UNLESS of course, you are looking for rare one off unusual jazz records, have an English, German or Japanese accent - then you'll probably be charged 3 times the price cause most American record "dealers" have got wise to record dealers... even more off topic!! ps - clothes are cheaper in the states, 2.

quoted 9 lines 1. Will all Warp releases now be significantly cheaper for those

>> > >> > 1. Will all Warp releases now be significantly cheaper for those >> > stateside? >> >>this prompts one question. how much cheaper exactly do you want them? i > >I tend to agree with Martin here. I picked up Trainer for $19.99 >and Mira Calix "One on One" for $12.99. I really don't think we're >getting aped in the US over warp releases.

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well, having ninjatune show up in, where, montreal? turned out pretty sweet. in fact, a fair chunk of people believe ninjatune to be a purely canadian label. heh. usually labels that actually do their own thing tend to do a pretty good job, esp. cos they usually have the same ideas (being, you know, the same label). plus the nothing thing has problems because the nothing people (aka trent reznor) has to bother with all the people in interscope and i think interscope is also a subsidiary of a larger label (which name escapes me). matador's a bit better, but has less of a budget, bla bla bla. so if there is a warp US thing happening, i can only see good things (well, there might be more US people on warp, which might be bad, har har). cheers, -derek ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob davis" <hardstep@avalon.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 12:48 AM Subject: [idm] Warp US? I have heard talk recently that "any moment now" Warp US is going to be setting up an office in New York and has signed a big fat distribution deal with Caroline. This prompts three questions: 1. Will all Warp releases now be significantly cheaper for those stateside? 2. How much of their catalog will be released in the U.S.? 3. Will this turn out as poorly as the deal with Nothing? bob davis. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

In a message dated 8/8/00 11:06:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ogre@netaxs.com writes: << Universal.. who've recently decided not to release anything not "commercial" or publicize anything already released that is similarly not "commercial," which is the main reason why the Warp acts on the label have gotten the shaft (as well as TheThe, Coil, and Einsturzende Neubauten). >> I believe Trent will be leaving Interscope soon, finding nin and the nothing label a new home, for this very reason. Not only is he getting flack form Universal because the nails stuff isn't commercial but also for all the stuff he tries to release on nothing. Nothing will be a pretty good label when Trent finds a company who will support him. turk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

why does he have to find a bigger label to support him? i'm sure that Nothing makes more money than Warp just based on the sales of Nine Inch Heels, and T-Rez can probably bankroll the label just fine without being owned by Seagrams or Disney. if he's serious about wanting to support the art he should make himself the boss of his own label. -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 PLeXitMIND@aol.com wrote:

quoted 25 lines In a message dated 8/8/00 11:06:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ogre@netaxs.com

> In a message dated 8/8/00 11:06:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ogre@netaxs.com > writes: > > << Universal.. who've recently decided not to release anything not > "commercial" or publicize anything already released that is similarly not > "commercial," which is the main reason why the Warp acts on the label have > gotten the shaft (as well as TheThe, Coil, and Einsturzende Neubauten). >> > > I believe Trent will be leaving Interscope soon, finding nin and the nothing > label a new home, for this very reason. Not only is he getting flack form > Universal because the nails stuff isn't commercial but also for all the stuff > he tries to release on nothing. Nothing will be a pretty good label when > Trent finds a company who will support him. > > > > > > turk > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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I wouldn't mind paying less for my Warp shit, or anything at all really. With the amount of records I buy, that little dollar or two would add up to $100 pretty fast. Retail price for domestic CD's are cheaper in the US than anywhere in the world, especially England and Japan, which is why the imports from there seem expensive, and why it's ALWAYS good to see something you want come out domestically. US'ers also spend (per capita) far less on recorded media than people in most other "developed" countries, and I believe 1/2 that of what the English spend. I paid $26.99 for Trainer, which was way too much, but Virgin is near my house and I saw it there and couldn't wait. It probably would have been 19.99 there if it was domestic. I would have saved $7. martin burbridge wrote:

quoted 20 lines bob davis:

> bob davis: > > > This prompts three questions: > > > > 1. Will all Warp releases now be significantly cheaper for those > > stateside? > > this prompts one question. how much cheaper exactly do you want them? i > bought the _trainer_ 2cd in a store for $19.99. this is probably cheaper > than you would get them in a store in england. the last two us released > double cds i bought cost around $23 each. i routinely see british warp > single cds for about $17 - $18, whereas non-sale us cds cost around $16. so > if they were released in the states, then you'd probably save about one or > two dollars. not exactly what i would call significantly cheaper. > > -martin > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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kevy admitted:

quoted 7 lines I paid $26.99 for Trainer, which was way too much, but Virgin is

> I paid $26.99 for Trainer, which was way too much, but Virgin is > near my house > and I saw it there and couldn't wait. It probably would have > been 19.99 there > if it was domestic. > > I would have saved $7.

but even as an import, it *is* available for $19.99. just because you choose to get ripped off at virgin (what do you expect), is no reason complain about a lack of a us release. plus a quick search at the virgin site shows 2cd sets for $23 and $25, so you would still pay more for a us cd at virgin, than you do for an import if you go elsewhere. hint - http://www.bentcrayon.com http://www.skimo.com/

quoted 2 lines I wouldn't mind paying less for my Warp shit, or anything at all

> I wouldn't mind paying less for my Warp shit, or anything at all > really.

then stop shopping at virgin. it is surely easier for you to do that than for every non-us label you are interested in to open up american distribution. -martin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

----- Original Message ----- From: martin burbridge <martin@bebub.com> To: bob davis <hardstep@avalon.net>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 8:28 AM Subject: RE: [idm] Warp US?

quoted 4 lines bob davis:

> bob davis: > > > This prompts three questions: > >

quoted 5 lines this prompts one question. how much cheaper exactly do you want them? i

> this prompts one question. how much cheaper exactly do you want them? i > bought the _trainer_ 2cd in a store for $19.99. this is probably cheaper > than you would get them in a store in england. the last two us released > double cds i bought cost around $23 each. i routinely see british warp > single cds for about $17 - $18, whereas non-sale us cds cost around $16.

so

quoted 5 lines if they were released in the states, then you'd probably save about one or

> if they were released in the states, then you'd probably save about one or > two dollars. not exactly what i would call significantly cheaper. > > -martin >

I should have specified, I try to get all my Warp stuff on LP, and despite the fact that I work in a record store, I often wind up paying on average$18-20 for a double LP that would come in at no more than $11 domestically. Bob davis. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

This thread is ridiculous. Obviously Warp is doing it for a reason. If the CD costs a penny less, don't Americans deserve to be happy?! For God's sakes let us enjoy our moment of satisfaction! John in Ta-wain (where I passed over Trainer at USD17.50--hey if I didn't like Bytes but like later Plaid, should I get this?) Thanks John

quoted 14 lines bob davis:

> > > > bob davis: > > > > > This prompts three questions: > > > > > > this prompts one question. how much cheaper exactly do you want them? i > > bought the _trainer_ 2cd in a store for $19.99. this is probably cheaper > > than you would get them in a store in england. the last two us released > > double cds i bought cost around $23 each. i routinely see british warp > > single cds for about $17 - $18, whereas non-sale us cds cost around $16. > so > > if they were released in the states, then you'd probably save about one

or

quoted 4 lines two dollars. not exactly what i would call significantly cheaper.

> > two dollars. not exactly what i would call significantly cheaper. > > > > -martin > >

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quoted 5 lines actually a typical US list price for a full CD through Caroline is 14.98

> actually a typical US list price for a full CD through Caroline is 14.98 > or 15.98 so I would think it would be in that range. > > watch for our new 3CD Ninja Tune mega-box comp in September for the > absurdly low list of $19.98.

No, absurdly low is Matador's _Everything is Nice_ 3CD for $12. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

actually a typical US list price for a full CD through Caroline is 14.98 or 15.98 so I would think it would be in that range. watch for our new 3CD Ninja Tune mega-box comp in September for the absurdly low list of $19.98. Jeff

quoted 14 lines This prompts three questions:

>> This prompts three questions: >> >> 1. Will all Warp releases now be significantly cheaper for those >> stateside? > >this prompts one question. how much cheaper exactly do you want them? i >bought the _trainer_ 2cd in a store for $19.99. this is probably cheaper >than you would get them in a store in england. the last two us released >double cds i bought cost around $23 each. i routinely see british warp >single cds for about $17 - $18, whereas non-sale us cds cost around $16. so >if they were released in the states, then you'd probably save about one or >two dollars. not exactly what i would call significantly cheaper. > >-martin

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quoted 2 lines damn, okay they win. But there's wasn't in a box (was it?), and ours is 5

> damn, okay they win. But there's wasn't in a box (was it?), and ours is 5 > colour print...ah fuck it it's still cheap as hell

Yeah, I don't dispute that your price is good. I'm pretty sure Matador probably made very little profit on _Everything is Nice_. It's in a foldout cardboard/paper package. Metallic blue coloring with a different shade of blue print on parts of it, nice book that gives a whole discography of all the Matador releases... really very impressive for 3 CDs and $12. I know they were selling it pretty cheaply, it may have just been the store I bought it at. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 09:19 AM 8/9/00 -0500, you wrote:

quoted 5 lines why does he have to find a bigger label to support him? i'm sure that

>why does he have to find a bigger label to support him? i'm sure that >Nothing makes more money than Warp just based on the sales of Nine Inch >Heels, and T-Rez can probably bankroll the label just fine without being >owned by Seagrams or Disney. if he's serious about wanting to support the >art he should make himself the boss of his own label.

Well, it's not that he needs a bigger label. It's just that he needs someone to distro Nothing. The current rumor is that he's trying to break all ties with Interscope and sign a distribution deal with Caroline. -- andrij. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

well, i fot this one for 8 bucks at a best buy superstore, so it prolly wasnt the store. todd ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Hime <hime1@gte.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [idm] Warp US?

quoted 15 lines actually a typical US list price for a full CD through Caroline is 14.98

> > actually a typical US list price for a full CD through Caroline is 14.98 > > or 15.98 so I would think it would be in that range. > > > > watch for our new 3CD Ninja Tune mega-box comp in September for the > > absurdly low list of $19.98. > > No, absurdly low is Matador's _Everything is Nice_ 3CD for $12. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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damn, okay they win. But there's wasn't in a box (was it?), and ours is 5 colour print...ah fuck it it's still cheap as hell Jeff

quoted 7 lines actually a typical US list price for a full CD through Caroline is 14.98

>> actually a typical US list price for a full CD through Caroline is 14.98 >> or 15.98 so I would think it would be in that range. >> >> watch for our new 3CD Ninja Tune mega-box comp in September for the >> absurdly low list of $19.98. > >No, absurdly low is Matador's _Everything is Nice_ 3CD for $12.

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quoted 3 lines damn, okay they win. But there's wasn't in a box (was it?), and ours is 5

>damn, okay they win. But there's wasn't in a box (was it?), and ours is 5 >colour print...ah fuck it it's still cheap as hell >

is that CMYK and a pantone or five pantones? cuz five pantones would hike yer production costs... oh yeah, this is that music list. uhh... np: kid 606 + friends nwa remix thingy -- -- jeremy axon open communications 34 ross street toronto ON Canada t: 416.955.1393 f: 416.955.1398 www.open.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 03:35 PM 8/9/00 -0400, you wrote: > is that CMYK and a pantone or five pantones? cuz five pantones would hike yer production costs...

quoted 1 line oh yeah, this is that music list.

>oh yeah, this is that music list.

You could easily be talking about the new Boards of Canada. -- andrij. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

This Ninja Tune/Matador compilation talk reminds me.....the Darla 100 (100th release) compilation is great. Some great new and old tracks by some very nice bliss-out type stuff (Sweet Trip, Color Filter, etc), and yeah, some indie rock stuff is in there too, The new Sweet Trip song was quite nice, if quite a departure from their old stuff--almost a bit of a Slicker feel going on. Anyways, quite a deal for 4 cds for less than $20 and a nice introduction to the Darla "bliss out" stuff too (basically indie guitar idm). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 9 lines damn, okay they win. But there's wasn't in a box (was it?), and ours is 5

> >damn, okay they win. But there's wasn't in a box (was it?), and ours is 5 > >colour print...ah fuck it it's still cheap as hell > > is that CMYK and a pantone or five pantones? cuz five pantones would > hike yer production costs... > > oh yeah, this is that music list. > > uhh... np: kid 606 + friends nwa remix thingy

We can bring this back to music, sort of. Anybody found a better place for pressing than GZCD? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 2 lines We can bring this back to music, sort of. Anybody found a better place for

>We can bring this back to music, sort of. Anybody found a better place for >pressing than GZCD?

8/10/00 Maybe I just got sick of looking... but the best prices I found were through CDMan in Vancouver (www.cdman.com). According to the email updates, I should be receiving the goods mid-next week for a turn around time of approximately 10 days. I haven't received anything yet, so no gushing until I inspect the finished product. On a totally different subject, could anyone recommend a disk that is mainly D'n'B breaks without basslines/melody stuff/etc. I hosh a late night public radio work in Boulder, Colorado and focus on noisy-spacey jazz and avant classical stuff and I love bringing up wicked breaks beneath it all. No mixer yet, and the board we have doesn't allow us to kill frequency bands... Any suggestions y'all could offer would be greatly appreciated. Down with the bass. J --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 2 lines damn, okay they win. But there's wasn't in a box (was it?), and ours is 5

>damn, okay they win. But there's wasn't in a box (was it?), and ours is 5 >colour print...ah fuck it it's still cheap as hell

i meant to ask earlier -- does anyone have the Everything Is Nice DVD? whats on it? Edwin Wong [suction@home.com]

In the UK, a single-disc album CD will cost between GBP 11 (USD 17) and GBP18 (USD 27). A double-album will cost anywhere between GBP 11 and GBP 22 (USD 33). So if you got the Plaid double-CD for 20 dollars (13.3 pounds) that's a pretty good deal! But in general, I believe that prices in the US for CDs tend to be a bit lower. G-love.

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> -----Original Message----- > From: martin burbridge [mailto:martin@bebub.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 2:28 PM > To: bob davis; idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [idm] Warp US? > > > bob davis: > > > This prompts three questions: > > > > 1. Will all Warp releases now be significantly cheaper for those > > stateside? > > this prompts one question. how much cheaper exactly do you want them? i > bought the _trainer_ 2cd in a store for $19.99. this is probably cheaper > than you would get them in a store in england. the last two us released > double cds i bought cost around $23 each. i routinely see british warp > single cds for about $17 - $18, whereas non-sale us cds cost > around $16. so > if they were released in the states, then you'd probably save about one or > two dollars. not exactly what i would call significantly cheaper. > > -martin > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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