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puckered1 wrote:

quoted 5 lines I sell stuff... I'm slow at times, I've had a few people unhappy with my

>I sell stuff... I'm slow at times, I've had a few people unhappy with my >mailing or product... shit happenes... the postal system happens... the >domestic release comes out after I sell the import happens... the crushed >case happens... >but the quality I received just seemed so BLATANT!

Hmmm... Having recently done a "trade" with you where in you received the package from me, but the package to me was "lost in the mail", an unfortunate situation which you have made no attempt to clear up or re-compensate even partially, I find it rather hypocritical of you to be throwing stones at another "internet dealer". I guess it's ok for a package not to arrive when the sender can come up with a good excuse.... Hmmm...wasn't there something about "People in glass houses shouldn't...."

quoted 1 line (which I was half compensated for)

>(which I was half compensated for)

Well at least you got something from them. I've yet to get anything out of my trade from you. Not even an "I'm sorry". hmmph. Sorry y'all, just found a tad bit of irony in reading one "bad" (in my experience at least) trader bad mouthing another trader, especially when the person being bad mouthed is one who has a history of being super good to the scene and has promoted IDM with previously good business and informative reviews. (sorry y'all but me thinks when a company is in the midst of a 'break up', ordering from them seems a bit foolhardy no matter what their reputation. Common sense says to wait until Stu gets his new company up and running before ordering from him again, 'specially if you've already got one order outstanding....) --- Peace Hugs and Unity, Jason J. Tar Vampire Rodent Productions http://pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason/VRodents.htm Featuring: Vampire Rodents, Ether Bunny, and Dilate.

At 11:26 PM 10/5/97 -0400, Jason J. Tar wrote:

quoted 1 line sorry y'all

> sorry y'all

Well, not as sorry as I am! $140 in the hole to MFR/4th World right now in addition to a load of aggravation and hassle calling credit card companies etc to no avail.

quoted 4 lines but me thinks when a company is in the

>but me thinks when a company is in the >midst of a 'break up', ordering from them seems a bit foolhardy no matter >what their reputation. Common sense says to wait until Stu gets his new >company up and running before ordering from him again, 'specially if

you've already got one order outstanding....) How about *two* orders outstanding? Think i should place a third order or send "half of the money for my orders in cash along with postage costs" so I can get *what I've already paid for* by credit card? I'm sorry but I sure hope you don't mean to imply that it's the ordering parties fault for placing orders because that's B.S. The blame needs to be placed on Stuart not on people who in good faith sent money/provided credit card numbers for goods that should have been sent. I don't think anyone should order anything from MFR until all these matters are cleared up to the satisfaction of all the various parties on this list that are reporting problems...and from the looks of things there are quite a few. Speaking of common sense...common sense also says that Stuart needs to clear this up because it isn't going to go away. I'm sorry, but I'm really ticked off. Stuart: send my records/CD's or give me a refund! T.

On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Jason J. Tar wrote:

quoted 2 lines Hmmm... Having recently done a "trade" with you where in you received the

> Hmmm... Having recently done a "trade" with you where in you received the > package from me, but the package to me was "lost in the mail", an

Uh oh, I'll let you know how my trade w/the puckered1 goes. My 1/2 of the deal is complete for anyone who may "wonder" about my being a bad trader. Teep & Flo np: titonton duvante

At 09:15 PM 10/5/97 -0700, Aran M. Parillo wrote:

quoted 7 lines On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Jason J. Tar wrote:

>On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Jason J. Tar wrote: > >> Hmmm... Having recently done a "trade" with you where in you received the >> package from me, but the package to me was "lost in the mail", an > >Uh oh, I'll let you know how my trade w/the puckered1 goes. My 1/2 of >the deal is complete for anyone who may "wonder" about my being a bad trader.

Yeah she got the package from me, and then said that mine would go out in a week. (Why it had to wait till she got mine, much less a week beyond that is another question all together. Personally think in a trade both parties should mail concurrently, but anyway.) 2 weeks later I inquired about it and got a "it's been sent...chill" message. week after that, got a "it's been sent, nothing I can do about it now" message. Then had the nerve to say that I told her not to use insured mail so that I could "set her up". yeah whatever. (Had said that I didn't believe in insurance as it seems a scam, but never told her how to do her mailings) Anyway... No cds for me. (supposedly "lost in the mail", not that she would take the time to check with the post office or anything though.) ...and this is the person who speaks harshly of MFR?? Hmmm.... (But than again maybe it was truly "lost in the mail", but still I think an apology and perhaps trying to track it down isn't asking too much. Personally stand behind all trades I make, but I guess that can't be expected of all people.) --- Peace Hugs and Unity, Jason J. Tar Vampire Rodent Productions http://pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason/VRodents.htm Featuring: Vampire Rodents, Ether Bunny, and Dilate.

On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Aran M. Parillo wrote:

quoted 3 lines Uh oh, I'll let you know how my trade w/the puckered1 goes. My 1/2 of

> Uh oh, I'll let you know how my trade w/the puckered1 goes. My 1/2 of > the deal is complete for anyone who may "wonder" about my being a bad trader. >

Explain to 'em about Potlatch teep!

In a message dated 10/6/97 4:30:51 AM, you wrote:

quoted 2 lines (Why it had to wait till she got mine, much less a week beyond that

>(Why it had to wait till she got mine, much less a week beyond that >is another question all togethe

cuz you sent me a $9 check, which I do with all checks no matter what the amount.... wait until it clears!

yadda yadda yadda.... are you gonna bark all night long little doggie, or are you gonna bite? you are so full of shit! you set me up by telling me NOT to insure your package! you probably have the damn thing right in front of you while you type this bullshit! I'm not going to hold your hand until the package arrives, so if I have been less than curtain with you, it's because I know I sent your package, and the fact you haven't recieved it is... (ready? read carefully now) NOT MY FAULT! for 3 lowsy SWANS CD's I would subject myself to this shit from you? whatever happen to your post in WHITEZONE-1, where you said that I had people defending me, so I must be telling you the truth, and the package must be lost in the mail!? also, ever think that you just didn't receive it yet? 4th Class Book Rate from Spet. 23rd just might not have gotten to you yet, mr. smart guy. and just for future record, I already sent GIL (gg2g4ink@sprynet.com) package - Book Rate, I'm going to send aran@hyperreal.org tomorrow, JaySense@aol.com tomorrow, and smcgonag@bates.edu tomorrow... rememer... if anyone can say they sent a package out when they really didn't, anyone can say they never received a package when they really did! no matter what anyone tells you, INSURE YOUR OUTGOING PACKAGES or you run the risk of getting slandered by petty minded people! In a message dated 10/6/97 3:29:19 AM, you wrote:

quoted 30 lines puckered1 wrote:

>puckered1 wrote: >>I sell stuff... I'm slow at times, I've had a few people unhappy with my >>mailing or product... shit happenes... the postal system happens... the >>domestic release comes out after I sell the import happens... the crushed >>case happens... >>but the quality I received just seemed so BLATANT! > >Hmmm... Having recently done a "trade" with you where in you received the >package from me, but the package to me was "lost in the mail", an >unfortunate situation which you have made no attempt to clear up or >re-compensate even partially, I find it rather hypocritical of you to be >throwing stones at another "internet dealer". I guess it's ok for a >package not to arrive when the sender can come up with a good excuse.... > >Hmmm...wasn't there something about "People in glass houses shouldn't...." > > >>(which I was half compensated for) >Well at least you got something from them. I've yet to get anything out of >my trade from you. Not even an "I'm sorry". hmmph. > >Sorry y'all, just found a tad bit of irony in reading one "bad" (in my >experience at least) trader bad mouthing another trader, especially when >the person being bad mouthed is one who has a history of being super good >to the scene and has promoted IDM with previously good business and >informative reviews. (sorry y'all but me thinks when a company is in the >midst of a 'break up', ordering from them seems a bit foolhardy no matter >what their reputation. Common sense says to wait until Stu gets his new >company up and running before ordering from him again, 'specially if you've >already got one order outstanding....)

At 02:11 AM 10/6/97 -0400, PUCKERED1@aol.com wrote:

quoted 3 lines you are so full of shit! you set me up by telling me NOT to insure your

>you are so full of shit! you set me up by telling me NOT to insure your >package! you probably have the damn thing right in front of you while you >type this bullshit!

I often set people up that way... that's me, set up artist. You got me. wheee... Puckered1 for Mensa! :( (I told you that I don't use insurance when you asked me how come I was checking with you to make sure you got your package...never told you not to use it. your free to do whatever you want.)

quoted 1 line for 3 lowsy SWANS CD's I would subject myself to this shit from you?

>for 3 lowsy SWANS CD's I would subject myself to this shit from you?

So I see now, if a trade is only for one cd or so, then it's fine for someone to just never send it and claim it's "lost in mail"... The only trades that count are large ones. Hmmm. I'm gonna need to remember that in future trades to people.

quoted 3 lines whatever happen to your post in WHITEZONE-1, where you said that I had people

>whatever happen to your post in WHITEZONE-1, where you said that I had people >defending me, so I must be telling you the truth, and the package must be >lost in the mail!?

I had one person tell me they traded with you smoothly, and so far 2 tell me otherwise. Hmmm... (

quoted 2 lines also, ever think that you just didn't receive it yet? 4th Class Book Rate

>also, ever think that you just didn't receive it yet? 4th Class Book Rate >from Spet. 23rd just might not have gotten to you yet, mr. smart guy.

Anyone who sends book rate is a 'bad trader' just for being stupid. Their is never an excuse to use that. (Notice how you got your package in just 3 days after a trade that you initiated....) so let's see, first excuse was "lost in mail". Second excuse was "book rate". what's next?

quoted 2 lines no matter what anyone tells you, INSURE YOUR OUTGOING PACKAGES or you run the

>no matter what anyone tells you, INSURE YOUR OUTGOING PACKAGES or you run the >risk of getting slandered by petty minded people!

Such as us "petty minded" ones who expect the other person to uphold their part of a trade! :( (sorry everyone...this thread must be getting as old as the recent Bjork stuff.) --- Peace Hugs and Unity, Jason J. Tar Vampire Rodent Productions http://pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason/VRodents.htm Featuring: Vampire Rodents, Ether Bunny, and Dilate.

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Jason Tar said:

quoted 2 lines Hmmm... Having recently done a "trade" with you where in you received the

>Hmmm... Having recently done a "trade" with you where in you received the >package from me, but the package to me was "lost in the mail", <snip>

I for one had no problem with Puckered1. I sent her $5, she sent me the cd I wanted and I had it within a week ... markw@southwind.net np: Skinny Puppy "Bites"