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Biostream@aol.com Re: (idm) Aphex/Autechre/Gear question? Biostream@aol.com has no idea what he's talking about:

quoted 2 lines The advantage of samplers is that even though computers can do everything and

>The advantage of samplers is that even though computers can do everything and >more that samplers can do, samplers are much much more faster.

"much much more faster." ? Two words: Macintosh. SampleCell Just as fast, if not faster than any dedicated sampler.

quoted 1 line Another thing is you don't have to worry about your hard drive filling up,

>Another thing is you don't have to worry about your hard drive filling up,

proccessing

quoted 1 line power, and most importantly sound quality.

>power, and most importantly sound quality.

Bollocks ! Some more words for you: Floppy Disk. Zip. Jaz. How much space do you need ? Works fine for me, I have three albums in progress on my drives at the moment.

quoted 1 line A sound card is not designed for professional sampling

>A sound card is not designed for professional sampling

SampleCell is just that.

quoted 1 line if you're going to do it straight computer, like RDJ does now, you've got to

> if you're going to do it straight computer, like RDJ does now, you've got to

get a very good

quoted 1 line audio interface to go with that wonderful soundcard that will also cost you

>audio interface to go with that wonderful soundcard that will also cost you

another few hundred

quoted 1 line dollars.

>dollars.

Simple fact of life: If you want professional sound. Be professional and use professional equipment.

quoted 1 line you'll have to also buy a special type of audio interface to cut noise

>you'll have to also buy a special type of audio interface to cut noise

between whatever you're sampling

quoted 1 line and the sound card which also requires expensive software.

>and the sound card which also requires expensive software.

Eh ?

quoted 2 lines You'll need to get a good sound editing program, something like CoolEdit

>You'll need to get a good sound editing program, something like CoolEdit >or Goldwave ( I think cooledit is better, but that's just my opinion)

Just buy a damned Mac and play with the big boys.

quoted 1 line You'll need a fast fucking computer with a fuckload of RAM.

>You'll need a fast fucking computer with a fuckload of RAM.

Not true.

quoted 1 line RDJ himself uses 4 powerpc macs, along with a bunch of interfaces, and alot

>RDJ himself uses 4 powerpc macs, along with a bunch of interfaces, and alot

of add ons. Who cares what RDJ uses ? One PowerMac will do. It doesn't even have to be a PowerMac, a standard Mac will work just fine. Don't bother posting until you know what you're talking about "Biostream". There's too much opinion presented as fact on the net. I can't stand all this ill-informed crap. To answer the original question, when they're working entirely on computer for audio,, most pros use a Mac with ProTools and/or SampleCell. B.

mythos@earthlink.net writes:

quoted 6 lines Two words:

> Two words: > > Macintosh. > SampleCell > > Just as fast, if not faster than any dedicated sampler.

and about 1/100th as interesting. i love samplecell but honestly it doesn't do much. very minimal in terms of filtering, modulation, etc. great for undecorated drum loops and drum samples. it's main benefit is that it's fast as hell.

quoted 3 lines How much space do you need ?

> How much space do you need ? > Works fine for me, I have three albums in progress on my drives at the > moment.

i have 5 gig of HD space on my computer and 1/2 gig on my sampler. another 2 gig for the computer would be keen but i'm running out of scsi IDs.

quoted 2 lines A sound card is not designed for professional sampling

> >A sound card is not designed for professional sampling > SampleCell is just that.

samplecell is way different from yr average PC sound card. for one thing, it's designed to be a sampler (as the name implies). a PC sound card is more like audiomedia (only not as good on average).

quoted 3 lines Simple fact of life:

> Simple fact of life: > If you want professional sound. > Be professional and use professional equipment.

i totally agree there.

quoted 1 line Just buy a damned Mac and play with the big boys.

> Just buy a damned Mac and play with the big boys.

the mac is no longer the only choice for audio, hate to say it (especially as a devout mac user of many many years). i'm not selling mine any time soon but if i were getting into the business today i would seriously consider getting a PC. most of the good software runs on both. when i was starting in the music biz there was definitely no choice, mac or nothing. i honestly think it's different today. (same thing happened with graphic design.)

quoted 2 lines You'll need a fast fucking computer with a fuckload of RAM.

> >You'll need a fast fucking computer with a fuckload of RAM. > Not true.

extremely helpful tho. all those cool toys like metasynth and sonicworx are already too slow for my tastes and i have a 100mhz power pc 601. i wish i had a 180mhz 604! and i've finally settled down with 48M of RAM. it's enough to keep two or three sound tools open at once without problems.

quoted 2 lines when they're working entirely on computer for

> when they're working entirely on computer for > audio,, most pros use a Mac with ProTools and/or SampleCell.

this is sorta true. protools definitely. samplecell rarely. -j-