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i believe he meant the warp net address: http://www.warp-net.com _________________________________________________ Brian Rachielles- UC Santa Barbara (.b) Production Director KCSB fm 91.9 1997-98 Audio Program thurs 2-4am ambient-idm-noise web- http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/4980

Does anyone else get major java error when trying to access warp-net? Shane -- If you have ICQ, you can reach me by using this number: 2220289 Leave me a world wide page at http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2220289 GO GET ICQ NOW!!! http://www.mirabilis.com

quoted 2 lines Does anyone else get major java error when trying to access

> Does anyone else get major java error when trying to access > warp-net?

Yes. The browser I use is Netscape Gold 3 which otherwise should be able to read Javascripts fine, so something must be wrong with their code, or...? transmission from the pHinnWeb Bunker over, ekku aka pHinn the maintainer of pHinnWeb - the old skool, the nu skool and the pHuture skool of Finnish electronic music trerra@uta.fi | http://www.uta.fi/~trerra | http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb

Warp-net hardly works for me at all, but then again I have Internet Explorer, so I get no sympathy. At 10:39 AM 8/11/97 -0400, you wrote:

quoted 15 lines Does anyone else get major java error when trying to access

> Does anyone else get major java error when trying to access >warp-net? > > >Shane >-- >If you have ICQ, you can reach me by using this number: 2220289 >Leave me a world wide page at http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2220289 > > GO GET ICQ NOW!!! http://www.mirabilis.com > > > > >

Guys, just break down and get Netspank 4.0. My IE 3.0 cringes at the mention of the word java. Netscape does well enough, although it crashes for no reason once and awhile...but you'll be able to see the page, at least. Tim

On Monday, 11-Aug-97, Tim Gill wrote [about Re: (idm) warp net problems.]:

quoted 3 lines Guys, just break down and get Netspank 4.0. My IE 3.0 cringes at the

>Guys, just break down and get Netspank 4.0. My IE 3.0 cringes at the >mention of the word java. Netscape does well enough, although it crashes >for no reason once and awhile...but you'll be able to see the page, at least.

Well there's even some problems I had with Netscape Communicator 4.1, so umm.. Anyway, it seems that (it happened to my friend too, and he's got 4.1 as well) when you click the 'place order' and 'add to order' buttons it times out, and also when submitting your info. It worked for me after a few mins of trying, but my friend wasn't as lucky. Has this happened to anyone else? my opinion about the java thing is this: overuse of java sucks.. and warp-net may be brilliant but they definitely over-use java. __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ www.freq-div.home.ml.org

quoted 2 lines my opinion about the java thing is this: overuse of java sucks.. and

> my opinion about the java thing is this: overuse of java sucks.. and > warp-net may be brilliant but they definitely over-use java.

Since you've misused the word Java in three messages in a row, I must interject :-). Warp-net uses very little Java. The only applet is the "bleeper", which is called to produce a beep on the navbar and to say "warp-net" when you move the mouse over the logo. Warp-net does, however, use a lot of JavaScript everywhere. JavaScript is _not_ Java! It used to be called LiveScript, but when Java appeared Netscape changed the name to JavaScript to cash in on the Java craze, which has lead to plenty of confusion. Actually, I think Warp-net has one of the most effective uses of JavaScript out there. It makes their site more like an application rather than a collection of static pages. When I'm using Netscape, that is. But that's always the tradeoff: make use of the technology and leave a lot of people behind vs. being compatible but not on the forefront. You can make a case for either approach. It would be nice if Warp-net was either programmed to scale down gracefully, or if they had a "raw" version as well as a "cooked" version for people not running Netscape. onNow: Black Dog live in Canada (thanks Chris!) -- Emanuel Borsboom -- Victoria B.C. Canada -- "complete with surface noise" [Home Page] http://zerius.com/emanuel/ [Java Synth] http://zerius.com/synth/ [Vocoder] http://zerius.com/vocoder/

quoted 3 lines Guys, just break down and get Netspank 4.0. My IE 3.0 cringes at the

> Guys, just break down and get Netspank 4.0. My IE 3.0 cringes at the > mention of the word java. Netscape does well enough, although it crashes > for no reason once and awhile...but you'll be able to see the page, at least.

Sounds backwards to me. If THEY want ME (and my wallet) to visit their site, they can damn well make it work on at least all the relatively common browsers. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists

On 11-Aug-97, Lazlo Nibble wrote:

quoted 4 lines Guys, just break down and get Netspank 4.0. My IE 3.0 cringes at the

>> Guys, just break down and get Netspank 4.0. My IE 3.0 cringes at the >> mention of the word java. Netscape does well enough, although it crashes >> for no reason once and awhile...but you'll be able to see the page, at >least.

quoted 3 lines Sounds backwards to me. If THEY want ME (and my wallet) to visit their site,

>Sounds backwards to me. If THEY want ME (and my wallet) to visit their site, >they can damn well make it work on at least all the relatively common >browsers.

quoted 3 lines --

>-- >::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) >::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists

I've got a really stupid question: whats the address for the page? I've yet to see it posted. I'll see if my amiga browser can bring it up ... markw@southwind.net

At 05:08 PM 8/11/97 -0600, mark weddle wrote:

quoted 7 lines On 11-Aug-97, Lazlo Nibble wrote:

>On 11-Aug-97, Lazlo Nibble wrote: >>> Guys, just break down and get Netspank 4.0. My IE 3.0 cringes at the >>> mention of the word java. Netscape does well enough, although it crashes >>> for no reason once and awhile...but you'll be able to see the page, at >>least. > >>Sounds backwards to me. If THEY want ME (and my wallet) to visit their

site,

quoted 12 lines they can damn well make it work on at least all the relatively common

>>they can damn well make it work on at least all the relatively common >>browsers. > >>-- >>::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) >>::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists > >I've got a really stupid question: whats the address for the page? >I've yet to see it posted. I'll see if my amiga browser can bring it up ... > > >markw@southwind.net

gee.. take a wild guess.. www.netscape.com perhaps? - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu " amen. and all that cal. "

Lazlo Nibble wrote:

quoted 11 lines Guys, just break down and get Netspank 4.0. My IE 3.0 cringes at

> > Guys, just break down and get Netspank 4.0. My IE 3.0 cringes at > the > > mention of the word java. Netscape does well enough, although it > crashes > > for no reason once and awhile...but you'll be able to see the page, > at least. > > Sounds backwards to me. If THEY want ME (and my wallet) to visit > their site, > they can damn well make it work on at least all the relatively common > browsers.

the way i see it is that if you use the internet lots (or only a bit) you should have the best browser you can get anyway! Java makes pages twice as good, and is worth the netscape download! You cant stand still in this game! Steve /k/./F/

and Lynx makes pages that *won't* stand still a third as annoying.. I try and avoid the game by using the best (read useful) browser for information retreival -- that's the point isn't it? not to get off the subject or anything.. obIDM: who wants to talk about "advanced alchemy of music" which was released in 1992 in germany which sounds ahead of its time -- I'll have more info when I get home & listen to it again. and what about "new order" from 1987 which was released in manchester -- haven't listened to the whole of it yet but sounds somewhat IDM.. **don't play the game, it'll just encourage them** --brett On Mon, 11 August 1997, at 22:56:24, .... wrote:

quoted 5 lines the way i see it is that if you use the internet lots (or only a bit)

> the way i see it is that if you use the internet lots (or only a bit) > you should have the best > browser you can get anyway! Java makes pages twice as good, and is worth > the > netscape download! You cant stand still in this game!

quoted 3 lines Guys, just break down and get Netspank 4.0. My IE 3.0 cringes at the

>> Guys, just break down and get Netspank 4.0. My IE 3.0 cringes at the >> mention of the word java. Netscape does well enough, although it crashes >> for no reason once and awhile...but you'll be able to see the page, at

least. crank up the memory of Netscape er can't you guys with pc's do that?