Where's the beef?
Just do it.
Two all beef patties special sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a
sesame seed bun.
Be like mike.
Where do you want to go today?
Buuhd....Wiiise....Er.
Etc...
Besides "Stupid is as stupid does" and "Show me the money", where does
film have this effect?
Popular films, with rare exceptions, do not sink into the culture's
collective mind *at all* any more. Gump was an exception, but why is it
that ID4 is all but forgotten now? One of the top grossing films of all
time, but who can recite a single line from it? The loudest guy in the
theater probably doesn't even remember anything. Most movies make a big
splash in the theatres, then they are gone. Poof! I see lots of movies
which entertain me but are soon fade out of my mind (ID4). I also see
lots of movies which are snoozers throughout, but which I never forget
(Solaris).
I'll bet all the big time movie directors of the early 21st century will
be ex-MTV video and TV commercial directors. David Fincher's already
there.
-Chris Fahey
(Never saw Forrest Gump. Love pop culture. Won't sink that low, though.)
quoted 47 lines -----Original Message-----
> -----Original Message-----
> From: idm-owner@hyperreal.com [SMTP:idm-owner@hyperreal.com] On Behalf
> Of Gonzi (Fresh)
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 1997 3:56 PM
> To: idm@hyperreal.com
> Subject: Re: (idm) Spice Girls
>
> > Few movies come close to being creative, and *definately* not the
> three
> > you mention (I'm surprised a film stufdent would hold up any of
> those
> > three movies as examples of "significant" or "complex", but I
> suppose
> > you picked popular but still kinda arty films to put in comparison
> to
> > Cheerios).
>
> The reason I picked those three films is because the issues they
> raised
> opened a public dialouge, not because they were the best films. Hardly
> anyone sees Greenaway films so they don't really have much of an
> impact
> on society.
>
> I think you're all being much too paranoid with this commercial thing.
> Popular films invade the culture and become part of our conciousness
> on
> a level that NO commercial can match. Take for example a film like
> Forrest Gump. It's discussed by people on the street, amongst friends,
> in offices. It's catch phrases are instantly recognizable. It is a
> best
> selling book. It had a number one soundtrack. It is on the cover of
> magazines, discussed in newspaper editorial columns, its joked about
> by
> talk show hosts and on variety shows on TV. What 30 second TV
> commercial
> can match that level of public recognition and awareness? NONE. And
> utimately, its impact on society is a thousand times more significant
> than any advert. And Forrest Gump is one of many.
>
> > even TV shows like
> > NYPD blue which form the cinematic foundation for Woody Allen's last
> > non-musical and for countless other movies.
>
> Errr...not so sure about that one.
>
> -Gonzi.