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1997-01-29 23:40MAKER OF ALL CAPSIn the new issue of Raygun, Trent Reznor cites Wagon Christ, along with Aphex Twin and De

From:: MAKER OF ALL CAPS <GHHORNE@DELTA.IS.TCU.EDU>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:40:47 -0600 (CST)
Subject:: (idm) Drum'n'Bass for Trent + Other Things

In the new issue of Raygun, Trent Reznor cites Wagon Christ, along with Aphex Twin and De La Soul [!] as his current musical influences and preferences. Never liked Trent's politics, but visualizing him listening to Throbbing Pouch brings a smile to my face. With the current bickering about the commercial bastardization of "our music," Trent makes an interesting point in his interview. If memory serves, he's become interested with drum'n'bass and electronica because rock has become boring. There's something nasty to be said about trend-hoppers who are getting into Orbital and Prodigy because it's "the Next Big Thing," but I don't see something wrong with changing one's focus or interests because what they enjoyed in the past has now become irritating. His interview was insightful; I encourage the current IDM nay-sayers to give it a glance. One distressing sight. I was one firefly last night, and one of the server-push advertisements read: "If you like ORBITAL and the PRODIGY, you'll love UNDERWORLD. Visit tvtrecords.som" Such advertising tactics scare me. High Noon Texas Christian University Student Center 1.29.97 Dj Millard Fillmore presiding. Usually, the TCU student lounge is home to no-name folk and rock bands. Today, a no-name DJ entertained and embarrassed the crowd. plug - me and mr. jones hidden agenda - the flute tune dj shadow - midnight in a perfect world squarepusher - windscale dj food - scratch ya head [sqrpshr remix] muziq - iced jem as one - a short track about love boards of canada - nlogax kruder + dorfmeister - high noon luke vibert - get your head down lfo - shove piggy shove neotropic - la centinela rec - 8 models in a sauna wishmountain - the rose gescom - keynell 1 woodenspoon - souff souff dj krush - dig this vibe skylab - on the breeze squarepusher - squeak velocette - microcomik 2 herbert - thinking of you I've only been doing this thing for a couple of months. And I really enjoy the mixed reactions I get. People don't know if they should dance or scream. The Boards of Canada EP is amazing. I haven't heard a record full of solid tracks in ages. Those interested in abstract hip hop should really look into Rec on the Skint label. Very different vibes. A full length should be out in February. And whoever posted about velocette is right; very underrated and worthy of more attention. I heard his live shows are fantastic. Thanks to everyone who helped me with my Vibert page problem.

1997-01-30 23:14Greg Earle> Trent makes an interesting point in his interview. If memory serves, he's > become inter

From:: Greg Earle <earle@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US>
To:: <GHHORNE@DELTA.IS.TCU.EDU>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:14:09 -0800
Subject:: (idm) Re: Drum'n'Bass for Trent + Other Things
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quoted 6 lines Trent makes an interesting point in his interview. If memory serves, he's

> Trent makes an interesting point in his interview. If memory serves, he's > become interested with drum'n'bass and electronica because rock has become > boring. There's something nasty to be said about trend-hoppers who are > getting into Orbital and Prodigy because it's "the Next Big Thing," but I > don't see something wrong with changing one's focus or interests because > what they enjoyed in the past has now become irritating.

The problem is that most of us realized that "rock [and Industrial] has become boring" about 5 years ago. If Trent had put out a Techno album in 1992, it would have been interesting. Doing Drum n' Bass in '97 is guaranteed to raise cries of "bandwagon jumper!", even if it *is* his current infatuation. (I'm still trying to get past the fact that the non-Dn'B bits of "Perfect Drug" sound like the same ol' same ol', and the video is still drenched in Goff imagery that I tired of long ago ... ) [ Very cool playlist elided. Musta terrorized those Christian Texans (-: ] I'm actually quite interested in this whole U.S. "Techno next big thing! Prodigy! Chemical Brothers! Underworld! OK, OK, Orbital too! And ... uh, wait, are there any more?" upswell. It seems to have appeared virtually out of nowhere. Did it really begin with the MTV Executive Decision and announcement? Does anybody remember? - Greg

1997-01-31 06:28Pixel8ion@aol.comIn a message dated 97-01-30 17:09:41 EST, you write: > There's something nasty to be said

From:: <Pixel8ion@aol.com>
To:: <GHHORNE@delta.is.tcu.edu>, <IDM@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 01:28:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Drum'n'Bass for Trent + Other Things

In a message dated 97-01-30 17:09:41 EST, you write:

quoted 2 lines There's something nasty to be said about trend-hoppers who are getting

> There's something nasty to be said about trend-hoppers who are getting > into Orbital and Prodigy because it's "the Next Big Thing,"

Reminds me of what a freind said to me the other day while on the phone with him at work... Him - "What are you listening to?" Me- "Autechre" Him - "What's that? Techno?" Me -(wincing 'cause I KNOW what he calls techno) "Well yeah...sort of...I guess electronica is more appropriate." Him - "Oh yeah! Hey you have to hook me up with some of that, Spin Magazine says it's gonna be the next big thing" Me- (shaking my head in silence) This is from the same guy who said to me last year that "listening to bands like Dishwala and Bush was better than listening to techno all day long". My sad pathetic trendy freinds... On a similar note... You know when it's getting bad when you hear the Firestarter single being played over and over again in the local electronics store - in this case a Wiz in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, NYC. It's even worse when you consider the kind of area this is. Meathead Guido would be an understatement. Ahh well Eric

1997-01-31 06:37MAKER OF ALL CAPS>Him - "What are you listening to?" >Me- "Autechre" >Him - "What's that? Techno?" >Me -(wi

From:: MAKER OF ALL CAPS <GHHORNE@DELTA.IS.TCU.EDU>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:37:07 -0600 (CST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Drum'n'bass For Trent + Other Things

quoted 5 lines Him - "What are you listening to?"

>Him - "What are you listening to?" >Me- "Autechre" >Him - "What's that? Techno?" >Me -(wincing 'cause I KNOW what he calls techno) "Well yeah...sort of...I >guess electronica is more appropriate."

This is another funny thing about the emergence of "techno" in America. Two summers ago, I spent two weeks in Marfa, Texas on holiday. [If anyone on the list knows what/where Marfa is, you can share in my misery.] I met some really attractive gal there and, upon asking me what kind of music I listen to, I told her "techno." She replied, "oh, I *LOVE* techno!" Excited and horny, I ran to the car to get my Case Logic travel pack. Inside: Prodigy - Music For a Jilted Generation Massive Attack - No Protection Orb - Orbvs Terrarvm Orbital - Diversions FSOL - Lifeforms Path 1-7 various lame compilations. I returned to her, showed her my goods, and she responded, "you don't have any 2 Unlimited?" I died.

1997-01-31 07:21HillieOn 31-Jan-97, MAKER OF ALL CAPS wrote: >Excited and horny, I ran to the car to get my Case

From:: Hillie <buh@clark.net>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 02:21:34 -0500
Subject:: Re: (idm) Drum'n'bass For Trent + Other Things
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On 31-Jan-97, MAKER OF ALL CAPS wrote:

quoted 1 line Excited and horny, I ran to the car to get my Case Logic travel pack. Inside:

>Excited and horny, I ran to the car to get my Case Logic travel pack. Inside:

quoted 2 lines I returned to her, showed her my goods, and she responded, "you don't have any

>I returned to her, showed her my goods, and she responded, "you don't have any >2 Unlimited?"

quoted 1 line I died.

>I died.

This is exactly why I hate that word "techno." When people ask me what kind of music I listen to, I always say electronic (listening) music, well that's not 100% accurate either, but it beats techno. If they don't know what it is, ah well, I tell them it's sortof like techno. Sometimes you can't win ;) -- Hillie aka Aurafix / PHD ja DAMONES hillien kotisivu - http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html phase distortion - http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~airou/phd/ easy internet services - http://huizen.dds.nl/~eis Do re mi fa so la ti.. Oh let's see if I can make it easier...

1997-01-31 20:06T.F.W.O.On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, MAKER OF ALL CAPS wrote: > I returned to her, showed her my goods, an

From:: T.F.W.O. <jnaylor@indiana.edu>
To:: MAKER OF ALL CAPS <GHHORNE@DELTA.IS.TCU.EDU>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:06:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Drum'n'bass For Trent + Other Things
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On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, MAKER OF ALL CAPS wrote:

quoted 4 lines I returned to her, showed her my goods, and she responded, "you don't have any

> I returned to her, showed her my goods, and she responded, "you don't have any > 2 Unlimited?" > > I died.

Well? Did you score? :) I'm not going to try to pick up a chick with electronica if it doesn't work. -Naylor- _____________________________________ ___ \GothCode2.5: GoSS3Mu3??$ TJtInG \___ /\ <jnaylor@indiana.edu> )_( /cDBRp7 PLShDe M3p1w Z!!GoiTeiTez C6 \/\/\__________________________)_( / \a22+ b65T H182 g5T w6T r3bs h3_/\/\/ T.F.W.O.: Totally ) (/ /s10__k2(5)__Rz___SsNy__N0993__LusIN_/ \/ Fucking Weirded Out! (___)

1997-02-06 02:0721st Century Soul> Excited and horny, I ran to the car to get my Case Logic travel pack. Inside: > > I retu

From:: 21st Century Soul <mikebee@fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us>
To:: MAKER OF ALL CAPS <GHHORNE@DELTA.IS.TCU.EDU>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:07:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Drum'n'bass For Trent + Other Things
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quoted 6 lines Excited and horny, I ran to the car to get my Case Logic travel pack. Inside:

> Excited and horny, I ran to the car to get my Case Logic travel pack. Inside: > > I returned to her, showed her my goods, and she responded, "you don't have any > 2 Unlimited?" > > I died.

you still got some though, right? mb <mB.twenty-first century soul. <mikebee@freenet.tlh.fl.us.

1997-01-31 17:22Lazlo Nibble> Reminds me of what a freind said to me the other day while on the phone with > him at wo

From:: Lazlo Nibble <lazlo@swcp.com>
To:: Intelligent Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:22:47 +73700 (MST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Drum'n'Bass for Trent + Other Things

quoted 11 lines Reminds me of what a freind said to me the other day while on the phone with

> Reminds me of what a freind said to me the other day while on the phone with > him at work... > > Him - "What are you listening to?" > Me- "Autechre" > Him - "What's that? Techno?" > Me -(wincing 'cause I KNOW what he calls techno) "Well yeah...sort of...I > guess electronica is more appropriate." > Him - "Oh yeah! Hey you have to hook me up with some of that, Spin Magazine > says it's gonna be the next big thing" > Me- (shaking my head in silence)

Sounds to me like a perfect opportunity to assure that if he gets into the lame stuff, it won't be from lack of exposure to the good stuff. For God's sake, hook the guy up! -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

1997-02-01 16:42khannan suntharamI was cruisin' my local record shop lookin to pick up that new RDJ album (the one with tha

From:: khannan suntharam <kxs28972@Bayou.UH.EDU>
To:: Intelligent Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 10:42:39 -0600 (CST)
Subject:: (idm) ArtofNoise:Fon & DnB?
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Drum'n'Bass for Trent + Other Things

I was cruisin' my local record shop lookin to pick up that new RDJ album (the one with that scene from "The Shining" on the cover ;) when I saw the following: Art of Noise : Fon Remixes - This one's got mixes from Graham Massey, LFO and others Art of Noise :Drum and Bass mixes Basically my question is this: what's the skinny on these two? Would I have to be a die-hard AoN fan to enjoy these releases or do they stand up on their own? Oh yeah, another thing...I saw an Atari Teenage Riot 12" called something like mind your own business or something and one of the tunes had a title about slaughtering ravers...If anyone knows what the hell I'm talking about, please gimme a review. It's cheap enough such that I'd get it if it had an iota of humor/entertainment value. khannan suntharam kxs28972@bayou.uh.edu

1997-02-01 19:31Chris.Hilker>Art of Noise : Fon Remixes - This one's got mixes from Graham Massey, LFO > and others >A

From:: Chris.Hilker <cspot@hyperreal.com>
To:: Ironic Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 11:31:42 -0800
Subject:: Re: (idm) ArtofNoise:Fon & DnB?
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quoted 7 lines Art of Noise : Fon Remixes - This one's got mixes from Graham Massey, LFO

>Art of Noise : Fon Remixes - This one's got mixes from Graham Massey, LFO > and others >Art of Noise :Drum and Bass mixes > >Basically my question is this: what's the skinny on these two? Would I >have to be a die-hard AoN fan to enjoy these releases or do they stand up >on their own?

I think most die-hard AoN fans hate them, because they don't really have a lot to do with AoN (the FON mixes do include a bit more of the originals than the drum & bass ones, which might as well be all new tracks, with one or two exceptions). If you like the artists who did the remixes, these albums are worth checking out. C. -- C.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.com) "He was mesmerized by the light-pictures, and the music sent him right into dreamland"

(idm) Drum'n'Bass for Trent + Other Things