IDM Mailing Archive

Pardon the ignorance; what, exactly, are lock grooves? Thinking of picking up a limited ed. release in the near future, but want to know whether such things (there are four on this one) should make me look into buying the CD instead. RPB Carthago delenda est! ---------------------- Replied Message Body ---------------------- forward/edit

quoted 2 lines From: CiM <u9323899@sys.uea.ac.uk> aka Big Brother Almighty!

> From: CiM <u9323899@sys.uea.ac.uk> aka Big Brother Almighty! > Ectomorph : Interdimensional Transmissions (?)

...

quoted 2 lines Equally exciting is the clear minty green vinyl, the two locked

> Equally exciting is the clear minty green vinyl, the two locked > grooves and the single track that plays from the centre of the record

... 3 locked grooves. :9 excellent work CiM! Teep

Robert- Lock grooves are vinyl grooves that "lock" the needle in to playing the groove over and over until you pick it up. For example: Lee Renaldo of Sonic Youth released an album called: "From Here To Infinity" which has a lock groove at the end of each song. Thus, each song never really ends, conceptually. Another fabulous lock groove record which comes to mind is RRR 100. This record marks indie-noise label RRR's 100th release. It's a 7" containing 100 lock grooves! 50 to a side, by 100 artists. I know these examples aren't very idm-ish, but I'm unaware of any idm records with lock grooves.............. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ''J''O''H''N'''''''R''I''C''K''M''A''N'''''''''''''''''''''''' jknee@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu

On Tue, 26 Sep 1995, Johnathan A. Rickman wrote:

quoted 2 lines I know these examples aren't very idm-ish, but I'm unaware of any idm

> I know these examples aren't very idm-ish, but I'm unaware of any idm > records with lock grooves..............

Actually, there's lots... it's especially popular among Detroit-affiliated artists -- Jeff Mills is a particular fan of them. Check out his _Cycle 30_ and _Growth_ EP's, for example. There's also a couple of the X-10n records from the UR days. As someone else already brought up, Canada's Legion of Green Men are lock-groove enthusiasts as well, and the aforementioned locked grooves on the Ectomorph record kick all kinds o' butt. And wasn't there one on that first Jedi Knights EP? I know I'm blanking on some other pretty prominent releases, but IDM lock grooves aren't as rare as you might think. As I understand, the reason you don't see more of them is that the mastering house has to be pretty competent to pull it off. ----------------------------------------------------------------- dave walker, detroit art services marmoset@conch.aa.msen.com phat phorest phires <A HREF="http://www.msen.com/~marmoset/">Dave Walker</A>

On Tue, 26 Sep 1995, Dave Walker wrote:

quoted 3 lines Actually, there's lots... it's especially popular among Detroit-affiliated

> Actually, there's lots... it's especially popular among Detroit-affiliated > artists -- Jeff Mills is a particular fan of them. Check out his _Cycle 30_ > and _Growth_ EP's,

_Growth_ is the best use of a locked groove I think I've ever heard. The track just builds and builds, reaches its peak and then locks beautifully.

quoted 2 lines And wasn't there one

> And wasn't there one > on that first Jedi Knights EP?

Yup; insane laughing if my memory serves me correctly. A definite Teep tool, this one :)

quoted 2 lines I know I'm blanking on some other pretty

> I know I'm blanking on some other pretty > prominent releases, but IDM lock grooves aren't as rare as you might think.

Planetary Assault Systems _Diesel Drudge_ has one. A friend bought it and listened to it for thirty minutes before he realised it was a locked groove. || [CiM] || u9323899@sys.uea.ac.uk || http://www.sys.uea.ac.uk/~u9323899/

On Tue, 26 Sep 1995, Johnathan A. Rickman wrote:

quoted 12 lines Robert-

> Robert- > Lock grooves are vinyl grooves that "lock" the needle in to playing > the groove over and over until you pick it up. > For example: > Lee Renaldo of Sonic Youth released an album called: "From Here To Infinity" > which has a lock groove at the end of each song. > Thus, each song never really ends, conceptually. > Another fabulous lock groove record which comes to mind is RRR 100. > This record marks indie-noise label RRR's 100th release. > It's a 7" containing 100 lock grooves! 50 to a side, by 100 artists. > I know these examples aren't very idm-ish, but I'm unaware of any idm > records with lock grooves..............

There's such a thing in the ElpH 10" (Eskaton 002 I think). probably done by coil or a by product. Locked groove at the end of the song. A typical infinity stunt. snow