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1. at Blockbuster Music the other night I asked the 18 year-old-something clerk if they had anything by Future Sound of London, I must have said the name 10 times. She was looking on the computer and she asked me "is that rap". 2. at the Canoga Park Tower I found plastikman filed in the rap section.

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> at the Canoga Park Tower I found plastikman filed in the rap section.

I would suggest that many rappers would do well to pick up some Plastikman. I am getting rather tired of the Snoop Doggy Doggerel that passes for the background of most rap tracks nowadays. A dose of Plastikman could only help. - Adam J Weitzman Individual, Inc. weitzman@individual.com

On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, Adam J Weitzman wrote:

quoted 12 lines at the Canoga Park Tower I found plastikman filed in the rap section.

> > at the Canoga Park Tower I found plastikman filed in the rap section. > > I would suggest that many rappers would do well to pick up some > Plastikman. I am getting rather tired of the Snoop Doggy Doggerel that > passes for the background of most rap tracks nowadays. A dose of > Plastikman could only help. > > - Adam J Weitzman > Individual, Inc. > weitzman@individual.com > >

Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts.. but I think that it would be really cool to remix some hardcore rap/hiphop and make the backing tracks really experimental and electronic... ...R.Hawtin

On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, Plus 8 Records wrote:

quoted 6 lines Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts.. but I think that it would be

> Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts.. but I think that it would be > really cool to remix some hardcore rap/hiphop and make the backing tracks > really experimental and electronic... > > ...R.Hawtin >

I think it would be even cooler if you totally messed up their voices and made them say really weird things. Maybe make their voices all distorted and fade in and out like a resonant filter sweep. Since most of the rappers seem to be into getting really stoned these days and wearing pot leaves on their hats, you could really freak some of them and their fans out. IDM's still completely foreign to most people. I'll bet Onyx would like this type of stuff. I like their stuff and little other rap. Kathy, mistress of Naughty by Nature

Remix the beats plastikman style with screw over the top... That'll be dope. Billy On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, Kathleen Vrshek wrote:

quoted 18 lines On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, Plus 8 Records wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, Plus 8 Records wrote: > > > Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts.. but I think that it would be > > really cool to remix some hardcore rap/hiphop and make the backing tracks > > really experimental and electronic... > > > > ...R.Hawtin > > > I think it would be even cooler if you totally messed up their voices and > made them say really weird things. Maybe make their voices all distorted > and fade in and out like a resonant filter sweep. Since most of the > rappers seem to be into getting really stoned these days and wearing pot > leaves on their hats, you could really freak some of them and their fans > out. IDM's still completely foreign to most people. I'll bet Onyx would > like this type of stuff. I like their stuff and little other rap. > > Kathy, mistress of Naughty by Nature >

Dans la Matrice, Plus 8 Records a dit:

quoted 10 lines On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, Adam J Weitzman wrote:

> > On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, Adam J Weitzman wrote: > > > at the Canoga Park Tower I found plastikman filed in the rap section. > > I would suggest that many rappers would do well to pick up some > > Plastikman. I am getting rather tired of the Snoop Doggy Doggerel that > > > Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts.. but I think that it would be > really cool to remix some hardcore rap/hiphop and make the backing tracks > really experimental and electronic...

Jochem must have tought of this also as on Ginger (dont remember the song) there is a drum pattern from a rap so, combined with the very IDMish sounds of Speedy J. Another thing that springs to mind would be Prodigy's music for a jilted generation. Probably fueled by PWEI style in that case... These are of course not obvious remix of a particular song, but more of a fusion of rap and techno. Ciao, -- Francois Dion (IdMEDIA) [> Email: francois@hyperreal.com <] ' [> C.P. 278, St-Lambert, QC, Canada, J4P 2N8 <] [> Raving Up North Ezine: run-request@hyperreal.com, subject: help <]

On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, Plus 8 Records wrote:

quoted 5 lines Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts.. but I think that it would be

> Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts.. but I think that it would be > really cool to remix some hardcore rap/hiphop and make the backing tracks > really experimental and electronic... > > ...R.Hawtin

Check out Mike Oldfield's remix of ICE-T's "Gotta lotta love" on the Virgin record sampler "Singed Sealed Delivered" vol. 2. The music is great, though I find the rap annoying. Too bad there isn't a dub or instrumental of this. This sampler also has tracks by Massive Attack, FSOL, Fluke, Amorphous Androgynous and is a great deal for $5.99. -- niemitz@cats.ucsc.edu

quoted 5 lines Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts.. but I think that it would be

> > > Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts.. but I think that it would be > really cool to remix some hardcore rap/hiphop and make the backing tracks > really experimental and electronic... >

DO IT RITCHIE! I've been waiting for this fusion for too long! You've got the gear. You've got the skills. And you probably have the connections. how're ya doin, anyway? It's me, chris from (now dead) DESIGN TRIBE 3!! (yeah, I'm laughing with you) take care

On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, Greg Strockbine. wrote:

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> 1. > at Blockbuster Music the other night I asked the 18 year-old-something > clerk if they had anything by Future Sound of London, I must have said > the name 10 times. She was looking on the computer and she asked me > "is that rap". > > 2. > at the Canoga Park Tower I found plastikman filed in the rap section. >

God, these shops must be *truly* underground - or something.

On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, Greg Strockbine. wrote:

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> 1. > at Blockbuster Music the other night I asked the 18 year-old-something > clerk if they had anything by Future Sound of London, I must have said > the name 10 times. She was looking on the computer and she asked me > "is that rap". > > 2. > at the Canoga Park Tower I found plastikman filed in the rap section. >

1. the 18 year-old-something is stupid. FSOL is techno. Some people may refer to it as trance, acid, or something like that but it isn't rap. 2. Last time I checked Plastikman was techno also. Dave cdh1@ra.msstate.edu ***signature file under construction***

quoted 4 lines at Blockbuster Music the other night I asked the 18 year-old-something

>at Blockbuster Music the other night I asked the 18 year-old-something >clerk if they had anything by Future Sound of London, I must have said >the name 10 times. She was looking on the computer and she asked me >"is that rap".

Not too surprising, actually - there's an American rap group called the Future Sound ("The Bop Step" was the closest they got to a hit), so the clerk probably saw that group listed as a rap group and asked to find out if it might be a truncated listing. C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) ...electro-spiritual in composition...

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>1. >at Blockbuster Music the other night I asked the 18 year-old-something >clerk if they had anything by Future Sound of London, I must have said >the name 10 times. She was looking on the computer and she asked me >"is that rap". > >2. >at the Canoga Park Tower I found plastikman filed in the rap section.

This proves that (C)RAP is definitely the music of the future, and techno (like Public Enemy and Ice Cube) is all in the past. Stefan ------------------------------------------------------------------- * / | EEVO LUTE MUZIQUE EEVO LUTE MUZIQUE * * / | Stefan Robbers P.O. BOX 2169 * * --- | eevo@iaehv.nl 5600 CD Eindhoven * * \ | / freedom of information The Netherlands * * \ / is everyone's right. Phn: +31-40-434036 * * \ / Fax: +31-40-434016 * -------------------------------------------------------------------

Fuck that....Techno I love yes...very much, more than rap by far, and indie-rock too.....but those two names you mentioned P.E. and Ice-Cube are so good.....they are skilled beyond belief....collabs would be awesome....Ice-Cube over triphop? smoooooooooch J On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, Stefan Robbers wrote:

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> >1. > >at Blockbuster Music the other night I asked the 18 year-old-something > >clerk if they had anything by Future Sound of London, I must have said > >the name 10 times. She was looking on the computer and she asked me > >"is that rap". > > > >2. > >at the Canoga Park Tower I found plastikman filed in the rap section. > > This proves that (C)RAP is definitely the music of the future, and techno > (like Public Enemy and Ice Cube) is all in the past. > > Stefan > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > * / | EEVO LUTE MUZIQUE EEVO LUTE MUZIQUE * > * / | Stefan Robbers P.O. BOX 2169 * > * --- | eevo@iaehv.nl 5600 CD Eindhoven * > * \ | / freedom of information The Netherlands * > * \ / is everyone's right. Phn: +31-40-434036 * > * \ / Fax: +31-40-434016 * > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >

The> Fuck that....Techno I love yes...very much, more than rap by far, and The> indie-rock too.....but those two names you mentioned P.E. and Ice-Cube The> are so good.....they are skilled beyond belief....collabs would be The> awesome....Ice-Cube over triphop? smoooooooooch J actually the collaboration every one was waiting for was Ice Cube and Dr. Dre.

No I meant a collab of Rap wonders and techno bliss.....kind of like that Plastikman idea, or how Transglobal's last album had....Oh, I don't remember his name......but you get the picture ...... help me I'm having a heart attack!!!!!!! oh wait, I just closed my eyes........J On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, Greg Strockbine. wrote:

quoted 9 lines The> Fuck that....Techno I love yes...very much, more than rap by far, and

> > The> Fuck that....Techno I love yes...very much, more than rap by far, and > The> indie-rock too.....but those two names you mentioned P.E. and Ice-Cube > The> are so good.....they are skilled beyond belief....collabs would be > The> awesome....Ice-Cube over triphop? smoooooooooch J > > actually the collaboration every one was waiting for was Ice Cube and > Dr. Dre. >

On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, Greg Strockbine. wrote:

quoted 8 lines The> Fuck that....Techno I love yes...very much, more than rap by far, and

> > The> Fuck that....Techno I love yes...very much, more than rap by far, and > The> indie-rock too.....but those two names you mentioned P.E. and Ice-Cube > The> are so good.....they are skilled beyond belief....collabs would be > The> awesome....Ice-Cube over triphop? smoooooooooch J > > actually the collaboration every one was waiting for was Ice Cube and > Dr. Dre. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

^^^^^^^ umm, didn't they collaborate once before as NWA? :) hip hop is/was cool, but it seems rather lifeless these days. i think rap is quickly becoming a zombified form of music. it's very formulaic and redundant. i liked rap and hip hop a lot 8 years ago, but my musical tastes have always been leaning towards electronic dance music. so, while i'll stray occasionally and totally groove on eric b and rakim, or nirvana, ultimately i come back to binging on techno. IMO, there is no rap worthy of supporting these days, so by default i'm doing my part to euthenate it. i'm getting admonished by a roommate as i write this. he says "what about the beastie boys?" well, i hardly call the beastie boys hip hop much less rap anymore. i think they would say the same thing too. ......p......

Well, for those of us that go off in the odder veins of IDM - especially "jap jazz", the Mo' Wax stuff, and ohmygod the new Sabres of Paradise album, it's not that big of a stretch to imagine Q-Tip rhyming for Portishead, for example. A few rap "artists" have put out 12" singles with just *instrumental* versions of their songs; Boogie Down Productions has a few with a bass that just kicks. That's the other side of the coin - but sample at will. :-) All I can say is go for it, Richie. If it's got a good beat, you can dance to it, and it doesn't end up on some stupid K-Tel comp, it's probably worth a try. Dave p.s. The new Sabres is incredible. Dub-Happy Kraftwerk with Duane Eddy on guitar, produced by Sly and Robbie. Not really, of course. Anyone see any remixes from this record? Some of the tracks could be real stormers... On Now: _Haunted Dancehall_ by The Sabres of Paradise .------------------------------------------dave.manning@dreamland.unomaha.edu | "It's in my brain now..." dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu | dmanning@eworld.com .-------------------------------------------- dgmanning@aol.com

quoted 3 lines Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts..but I think that it would be

> Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts..but I think that it would be > really cool to remix some hardcore rap/hiphop and make the backing > tracks really experimental and electronic...

you've just described a track off the agenda 22 comp (new electronica) "Lost" by MAX 404, rolling hard experimental loops and classy eevo tops. of course in place of the hard core goofy gangster talk, we hear the lamenting of a lovr... and yes, we KNOW you're nuts, that's why we like you ... Teep

quoted 5 lines Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts ... but I think that it would be

>> Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts ... but I think that it would be >> really cool to remix some hardcore Rap/Hip Hop and make the backing >> tracks really experimental and electronic ... > > You've just described a track off the Agenda 22 comp (New Electronica) "Lost"

Actually, I thought Richie was talking about "Fear of a Black Planet" ... But what do I know ... - Greg P.S. ObIDMSoapBox: Please, no more "Rap isn't music!" or "2 Unlimited sux!"

On Jan 13, 1:52am, Plus 8 Records wrote:

quoted 12 lines Subject: Re: Is It Rap or Techno

> Subject: Re: Is It Rap or Techno > On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, Adam J Weitzman wrote: > > I would suggest that many rappers would do well to pick up some > > Plastikman. I am getting rather tired of the Snoop Doggy Doggerel that > > passes for the background of most rap tracks nowadays. A dose of > > Plastikman could only help. > > > Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts.. but I think that it would be > really cool to remix some hardcore rap/hiphop and make the backing tracks > really experimental and electronic... > > ...R.Hawtin

That's kind of what some of the Mo'Wax stuff sounds like. For that matter, listen again to "It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back." for some deep science behind rap music. You should ring up Terminator X, Mr. Hawtin, and do something with him. He did a DJ tour a few years ago that was nothing short of brilliant. -- Kent Williams kent@cadsi.com "Swirling a sound [in Quadrophonic Space] at an audio rate produces interesting spatial and modulative effects" -- Serge Modular Product Spec Sheet.

quoted 3 lines Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts.. but I think that it

> > Everyone's gonna probably think I'm nuts.. but I think that it > would be > > really cool to remix some hardcore rap/hiphop and make the

backing

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> tracks > > really experimental and electronic... > > > > ...R.Hawtin >

You may be nuts Richie, but not in the way that you mean -ie. this would be a bad idea. It must be tried! That's what we all like about this scene - people always tryin' new things, breakin' boundaries, messin' up headz. Oops, heard that before...

quoted 1 line That's kind of what some of the Mo'Wax stuff sounds like.

> That's kind of what some of the Mo'Wax stuff sounds like.

Get a tough rap over Richies "Motor Bass get Phuncked up" remix and you'd be off to a flying start, methinks

quoted 2 lines For that matter,

> For that matter, > listen again to "It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back."

for

quoted 4 lines some deep science behind rap music.

> some deep science behind rap music. > > You should ring up Terminator X, Mr. Hawtin, and do something with > him.

I'll second that! BTW there is a rather strange rap track on B Hannants "Sculptured" LP for those of you who haven't binned it yet. J ^ James Skilton aka Steady J - jamess@firefox.co.uk ^---+ What's in the basket? My Brother!

No, you're not nuts, Rich. :) I was asking the same question back when Adrian Sherwood was 'da shit' -- why some of these guys (esp. KRS One) didn't steal some ON-U sound beats is beyond me. Word to the motherboard, Dan.

quoted 5 lines No, you're not nuts, Rich. :)

>No, you're not nuts, Rich. :) > >I was asking the same question back when Adrian Sherwood was 'da shit' -- >why some of these guys (esp. KRS One) didn't steal some ON-U sound beats >is beyond me.

OK, Adrian Sherwood... But ya see, I think that's why I really liked Meat Beat, especially their early Sweatbox releases...although Jack Danger's lyrics and style doesn't exactly stand on par w/ hip-hop lyrics today...but the beats, samples (from hip=hop), as well as the tempo, went well w/ fucked-up filters, bleeps and feedback samples. STORM THE STUDIO is one of my favorite albums. -morgan geist

On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, MORGAN GEIST wrote:

quoted 8 lines But ya see, I think that's why I really liked Meat Beat, especially their early

> But ya see, I think that's why I really liked Meat Beat, especially their early > Sweatbox releases...although Jack Danger's lyrics and style doesn't exactly > stand on par w/ hip-hop lyrics today...but the beats, samples (from hip=hop), > as well as the tempo, went well w/ fucked-up filters, bleeps and feedback > samples. STORM THE STUDIO is one of my favorite albums. > > -morgan geist >

(Morgan receives a standing ovation from all the meat beat fans out there. Jack is a hip-hop/psyche-out/trance/hell music/beat heavy/dub genius. He and Johnny have been putting out all kinds of crossover type stuff that would make all those Gangstas just give up and quit if they'd heard, because they would know they could do no better. Kathy, mistress of meat

On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, Kathleen Vrshek wrote:

quoted 17 lines On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, MORGAN GEIST wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, MORGAN GEIST wrote: > > > But ya see, I think that's why I really liked Meat Beat, especially their early > > Sweatbox releases...although Jack Danger's lyrics and style doesn't exactly > > stand on par w/ hip-hop lyrics today...but the beats, samples (from hip=hop), > > as well as the tempo, went well w/ fucked-up filters, bleeps and feedback > > samples. STORM THE STUDIO is one of my favorite albums. > > > > -morgan geist > > > (Morgan receives a standing ovation from all the meat beat fans out > there. Jack is a hip-hop/psyche-out/trance/hell music/beat heavy/dub > genius. He and Johnny have been putting out all kinds of crossover type > stuff that would make all those Gangstas just give up and quit if they'd > heard, because they would know they could do no better. > > Kathy, mistress of meat

well, i don't know if i agree with all of that, but i do agree on one point. meat beat manifesto make every hip hop dj look utterly and completely pathetic. the beats that mbm usher forth are fierce. most of the production work from hip hop dj's utilizes simple loops carved from different selections of their record collections. variation in hip hop tracks is minimal and predictable. i love hip hop beats, and i wish i could find some good instrumental hip hop work, but it seems that all people want to do is offer their pathetic views of the world... i also grew tired of the rappers. i am not a big fan of vocals i suppose, even though i love dancehall and jungle and ragga (to an extent). perhaps i am more amused with it because they sound like cookie monster? :) hip hop seems to have forgotten that music is an art that is supposed to push the boundaries of the envelope, and with major label's carving the music in the direction they want it to go in nothing good has been released that has made me take notice. someone does these fools up with some meat beat manifesto.

quoted 6 lines (Morgan receives a standing ovation from all the meat beat fans out

> > > > > (Morgan receives a standing ovation from all the meat beat fans out > > there. Jack is a hip-hop/psyche-out/trance/hell music/beat heavy/dub > > genius. He and Johnny have been putting out all kinds of crossover type > > stuff that would make all those Gangstas just give up and quit if they'd > > heard, because they would know they could do no better.

quoted 2 lines point. meat beat manifesto make every hip hop dj look utterly and

> point. meat beat manifesto make every hip hop dj look utterly and > completely pathetic.

maybe not EVERY one, but I know what you're sayin Does anyone know what the MBM geniuses (genii?) have been doin lately. Any new remixes by Jack? I hope they stop hangin out with Consolidated, though. c-ya chris

quoted 2 lines Does anyone know what the MBM geniuses (genii?) have been doin lately.

> Does anyone know what the MBM geniuses (genii?) have been doin lately. > Any new remixes by Jack?

There's a new MBM track called 'Simulacra Pt. 2' on 'Survival 2000' compilation. The new album is coming this spring. (I think there was a post on this some time ago.) ERkki

Meat Beat Manifesto's Armed Audio Warfare and Storm the Studio should be rereleased on january 17th on Mute/Elektra with new cover art but STILL no Strap Down pt. 3 on Storm.... They have been working on a new album which should be done in february and released around march.... The only remixes, etc. they've done lately that I'm aware of are Jack's wonderful work with EBN on teex3 and his remix of NIN's "closer" on the Closer single...... Actually, I think the new EBN album will be out before the new MBM, and Jack helped out a lot with that too....Considering Consolidated's new direction, I doubt they'll have much influence....and even if they do, people may have noticed Consolidated's views have grown up a little on their latest album.....anyway, back to IDM.......Luvvy Duvvy J On Sat, 14 Jan 1995, David K. Collins wrote:

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> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 05:11:21 -0600 (CST) > From: David K. Collins <umcoll13@cc.UManitoba.CA> > To: gsi2174@gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU > Cc: idm@hyperreal.com > Subject: Re: Is It Rap or Techno > > > > > > > > (Morgan receives a standing ovation from all the meat beat fans out > > > there. Jack is a hip-hop/psyche-out/trance/hell music/beat heavy/dub > > > genius. He and Johnny have been putting out all kinds of crossover type > > > stuff that would make all those Gangstas just give up and quit if they'd > > > heard, because they would know they could do no better. > > > point. meat beat manifesto make every hip hop dj look utterly and > > completely pathetic. > > maybe not EVERY one, but I know what you're sayin > > Does anyone know what the MBM geniuses (genii?) have been doin lately. > Any new remixes by Jack? > > I hope they stop hangin out with Consolidated, though. > > c-ya > chris >

quoted 1 line at the Canoga Park Tower I found plastikman filed in the rap section.

> at the Canoga Park Tower I found plastikman filed in the rap section.

Probably got fooled by the Stussy-looking cover . . . -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Visit http://rt66.com/lazlo/ for Discographies, Record ::: Collecting Resources, The Internet Music Wantlists, and more.

quoted 4 lines IMO, there is no rap worthy of supporting these days, so by default i'm

> IMO, there is no rap worthy of supporting these days, so by default i'm > doing my part to euthenate it. i'm getting admonished by a roommate as > i write this. he says "what about the beastie boys?" well, i hardly > call the beastie boys hip hop much less rap anymore.

I know we're getting off-topic here but I have to call you out on this attitude -- it's complete bullshit. You want to be able to prop up this bogus theory that an entire genre is creatively defunct so you oh-so-cleverly define the stuff you happen to *like* out of the genre? Give us a break. ("Disco sucks!" "Yeah, well, what about that Giorgio Moroder record I see in your collection over there?" "THAT'S NOT DISCO! It's...uh...it's ELECTRIC EUROPOP! Yeah! Not disco!") -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Visit http://rt66.com/lazlo/ for Discographies, Record ::: Collecting Resources, The Internet Music Wantlists, and more.

quoted 10 lines actually the collaboration every one was waiting for was Ice Cube and

>> actually the collaboration every one was waiting for was Ice Cube and >> Dr. Dre. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ^^^^^^^ >> umm, didn't they collaborate once before as NWA? :) > >hno. IMO, there is no >rap worthy of supporting these days, so by default i'm doing my part to >euthenate it. i'm getting admonished by a roommate as i write this. he >says "what about the beastie boys?" well, i hardly call the beastie boys >hip hop much less rap anymore. i think they would say the same thing too.

Warren G (Dr. Dre's cousin) is not bad, imho. _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ surfing on sine wave ---Space for Rant------

quoted 2 lines Check out Mike Oldfield's remix of ICE-T's "Gotta lotta love" on the

> > Check out Mike Oldfield's remix of ICE-T's "Gotta lotta love" on the > > Virgin record sampler "Singed Sealed Delivered" vol. 2.

On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, Lazlo Nibble wrote:

quoted 2 lines Joking, right? Smiley? Something?

> > Joking, right? Smiley? Something?

Nope. I would never joke about something like that :) Other trax on SSD: Brotherhood--Crashin' The System Carleen Anderson--Mr. Businessman Massive Attack--Home of the Whale Shaggy--Boom Bas Tic Loose Ends--Push Shyheim--U Da Man Bridgette McWilliams--No Groove Sweatin' College Boyz--Moment of Truth FSOL--Bring Me Home Amorphous Androgynous--Subliminal Aura Fluke--G.Feel.8.The Popsicle Frankie Knuckles--Drippin' With Lust Sheila Chandra--Speaking in Tongues III The other two volumes are indie rock samplers -- On now: Jaggernut by Suns of Arqa

quoted 2 lines Sender: owner-idm@hyperreal.com

> Sender: owner-idm@hyperreal.com > Precedence: bulk

quoted 3 lines The only remixes, etc. they've done lately that I'm aware of are Jack's

> The only remixes, etc. they've done lately that I'm aware of are Jack's > wonderful work with > EBN on teex3 and his remix of NIN's "closer" on the Closer single......

Don't forget the remixes on David Byrne's "Back in the Box" single. Both JD mixes are top notch. MC

On Sat, 14 Jan 1995, Mark Conklin wrote:

quoted 9 lines The only remixes, etc. they've done lately that I'm aware of are Jack's

> > The only remixes, etc. they've done lately that I'm aware of are Jack's > > wonderful work with > > EBN on teex3 and his remix of NIN's "closer" on the Closer single...... > > Don't forget the remixes on David Byrne's "Back in the Box" single. Both JD > mixes are top notch. > > MC >

Jack's remix of Scorn's Silver Rain Fell is AWESOME. Very spooky. Check it out. It's on Ambient 4: Isolationism. Kathy, mistress of meat

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quoted 4 lines Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 20:09:36 -0500 (EST)

> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 20:09:36 -0500 (EST) > From: The Ghost of the Alien that Obi-Wan killed in the Bar on Tattoine <jts61 > Sender: owner-idm@hyperreal.com > Precedence: bulk

quoted 4 lines The> Fuck that....Techno I love yes...very much, more than rap by far, and

> > The> Fuck that....Techno I love yes...very much, more than rap by far, and > > The> indie-rock too.....but those two names you mentioned P.E. and Ice-Cube > > The> are so good.....they are skilled beyond belief....collabs would be > > The> awesome....Ice-Cube over triphop? smoooooooooch J

Have you heard Bomb the Bass's latest stuff, especially "Bug Powder Dust"? Rap meets smooth breaks (Sorry I just can't stand the *new* phrase "triphop"). As with a lot of music these days, there's a fine line between what type of music your listening too when you hear "Bug Powder Dust". However, it is certain that its Rap meets something. Better than most rap stuff I have heard. MC

quoted 4 lines I hope they stop hangin out with Consolidated, though.

>>>I hope they stop hangin out with Consolidated, though. > >Hey .. don't be dissin' Consolidated, now. At any rate, MBM's new album >should be out Spring/early Summer from what I've been hearing.

I interviewed Jack Dangers a while back and if I remember correctly, he gave a sort of mixed bag response to Consolidated, even though he was working with them by then. I was a little down about MBM working w/ them because they're so tangible while MBM was...very surreal at first...then got more Consoldated-ey Gotta run bye -morgan geist

quoted 1 line I hope they stop hangin out with Consolidated, though.

>>I hope they stop hangin out with Consolidated, though.

Hey .. don't be dissin' Consolidated, now. At any rate, MBM's new album should be out Spring/early Summer from what I've been hearing. - reverb

quoted 2 lines Does anyone know what the MBM geniuses (genii?) have been doin lately.

>> Does anyone know what the MBM geniuses (genii?) have been doin lately. >> Any new remixes by Jack?

There's a really good remix of Scorn's "Silver Rain Fell" rj *** onnow: jim o'rourke:tamper