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Wed, 02 Feb 1994 15:13:56 -0700
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Re: The death of the industry? -Reply
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I don't agree, actually. right now, DJ CD players are quite a bit more expensive than buying two 1200's plus mixer. so the startup cost for vinyl DJing is lower. i expect that maybe someday the prices will come into line. at that point, i might start to get scared. well, i don't believe that instant start stuff. admittedly, i haven't played with the CD models enough to be an expert but so far I find it *really* hard to start the CD accurately, whereas vinyl is simple. besides, what if the point at which you want to start the song isn't under the laser pickup at the moment you hit "play"... you have to wait for the CD to rotate around to that point... <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< This is incorrect. The Denon CD players offer a .01 second start time because they have a buffer that eliminates the need for the CD player to wait for rotation of the disk. My Denon will reliably start every time exactly in sync, provided I press the play button exactly on the beat. Also, I purchased my Denon used for $700, about the same price as 2 1200's (without a mixer). DN2000Fs are going for about $950 new from mail order places. Another reason I buy CDs, which I forgot to mention before, is that I can purchase a lot of good compilations for around $22 (import) a piece that might have 4 or 5 good songs on them. A lot of stuff you find on compilations is garbage, I agree, but those 4 or 5 songs would have cost me $40 or $50 if I purchased them as vinyl singles. Occasionally, I'll even find a compilation that has 8, 9, or 10 really good songs on it. This is rare, I'll admit, but that's a *huge* savings over buying imported vinyl. If there is a new single that's good that I can't get on CD, I'll buy it on vinyl though, so for this reason, I buy more CDs than I do vinyl, but you can't really play all the newest, best stuff at this point if you limit yourself to CDs only. When I can afford it and the price has come down a bit, I'll start copying my best vinyl stuff onto CD, so I have it in an easier to use (imo) format. You can get CD burners now for $3995 retail (not sure what the street price is) and the blanks are $10. When this price comes down further, it'll be much more feasible to get all my vinyl stuff on CD. I think it was Francois Dion that mentioned a guy in LA that will do one-offs for $30 if you provide a DAT master. I'm not sure if I remember that correctly, but Francois, could you re-enlighten me on the details of that one? I agree with your point that in order for a musician that makes underground music to get their music heard, they have to press vinyl and give them away to some good DJs that will play it for lots of people. That's the way it is right now, but if it's becoming so cheap to buy CD players, and CD compilations, then we'll probably see tons of new digital DJs in the next few years that will open up new ways for aspiring artists to get their stuff heard. It's only a matter of time before CD technology is so cheap that it might even be cheaper than turntables. Technics hasn't changed their prices all that much in the last 10 years or so. I apologize if I'm sounding rude, and you have good valid points. I'm just trying to better understand how other underground DJs think on these kind of issues. Thanks for your time, Luke