the path to the utopian dream is so easy! continue with things the way they
are, occasionally debate about how bad it sucks, and wait for the oil to run
out.. or at least require more energy to get out of the ground than the
extracted oil would provide.
without the oil, the population will not be able to stay at its current
level.
those who survive the massive die-off get to live in utopia.
2008/11/12 Z Moser <roachgod69@hotmail.com>
quoted 83 lines The first half-hour is about the fractional reserve monetary system and how
>
> The first half-hour is about the fractional reserve monetary system and how
> it
> doesn't work. Then it goes into how debt created by the fractional
> reserve system is used to create wage-slaves and exploit third-world
> countries. The last part gives a vision of the future based on a
> resource based economy.
>
>
>
> From what I am understanding you are saying that the fractional reserve
> explanation makes sense, but that debt-slavery/exploitation and resource
> economies
> don't? Do you have a solution? Or do you think that the fraction
> reserve monetary system is the best we can get?
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input,
>
> zaq
>
> > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:27:37 +0000
> > From: catmail_2004@yahoo.ie
> > To: sam@forum8.co.jp; idm@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: [idm] Zeitgeist: Addendum
> >
> > i agree - anything after the first half an hour was shite
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Sam Marginson (FORUM8) <sam@forum8.co.jp>
> > To: idm hyperreal <idm@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, 12 November, 2008 6:34:20
> > Subject: RE: [idm] Zeitgeist: Addendum
> >
> > I thought the movie sucked pretty badly, just quietly. It had some
> merits -
> > the section about the economics of our situation was somewhat
> interesting..
> > however, there was no detail about the path to the utopian dream at the
> end
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Z Moser [mailto:roachgod69@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:20 PM
> > To: rick@glowdot.com; idm hyperreal
> > Subject: RE: [idm] Zeitgeist: Addendum
> >
> >
> > Oh. I get it. Its not that it's because it isn't IDM. Its because you
> have a
> > bias. In that case I will ignore you.
> >
> > Thanks for being clear,
> > zaq
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:59:18 -0800
> > > From: rick@glowdot.com
> > > To: idm@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: [idm] Zeitgeist: Addendum
> > >
> > > Charles Goodwin wrote:
> > > > Ya know, I never quite understood why people get so upset every time
> > anyone posts anything that is not directly related to IDM, the same thing
> > used to happen on the Tech-house list and now its dead.
> > > >
> > > Because this is the IDM list not the FW: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: RE: OMG
> > > ZEITGIEST MIND BLOWN MUST SEE BU$$SH = HITLER CONSPIRACY list, that's
> why.
> >
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