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Z Moser
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idm hyperreal
Date:
Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:14:36 +0000
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RE: [idm] Zeitgeist: Addendum‏
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Yes. The movie admits it doesn't have THE answer, rather A partial answer. Thanks for the additional information. Also, I think if you think it would require billions to accomplish you may be missing the point of a resource economy based in principles of abundance. One of the first steps in moving into this direction is creating and distributing already available abundance to ween our self off of a monetary system. I am uncertain of exactly how to go about this. The first thing I am going to start is creating a technologically savvy self-sustainable community that relies on as little money as possible pulling its resources from abundance in the immediate meta-community. Also by generating discussions such as this one on how to start doing it on a larger scale, while exploring other ideas such as the ones you mention below. Another way to transition into a resource based economy from a monetary debt based economy is by creating small localized monetary value based economies. Many communities are already doing this. Thanks again for the info, zaq
quoted 69 lines Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:35:09 +0200> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:35:09 +0200 > From: esaruoho@gmail.com > To: sam@forum8.co.jp > CC: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Zeitgeist: Addendum‏ > > also it gets sad when these people pick some venusproject project that > requires hundreds of millions to do and just say put your money in > that box there. also, where's the michael reynolds/earthships, > r.buckminster fuller/designscience/dymaxionmap/dymaxionhouse/dymaxioncar, > where's the diy hydroxy fuel boosters, proper info about tesla's > endless plight, nathan stubblefield, walter russell, and so forth? > just gets a bit sad like. im sure theres heaps of people who'd be very > glad to see zeitgeist feature earthships instead of zeitgeist feature > an utopian cashless society that requires billions to accomplish -- > yet may still fall. > > and they don't have enough clikketyclakkety whirr clack music on it > either. go watch "garbage warrior" instead of zeitgeist:addendum, it > wont have clikclack either but it'll be more fun > > 2008/11/12 Sam Marginson (FORUM8) <sam@forum8.co.jp>: > > I thought the movie sucked pretty badly, just quietly. It had some merits - > > the section about the economics of our situation was somewhat interesting.. > > however, there was no detail about the path to the utopian dream at the end > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Z Moser [mailto:roachgod69@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:20 PM > > To: rick@glowdot.com; idm hyperreal > > Subject: RE: [idm] Zeitgeist: Addendum‏ > > > > > > Oh. I get it. Its not that it's because it isn't IDM. Its because you have a > > bias. In that case I will ignore you. > > > > Thanks for being clear, > > zaq > > > >> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:59:18 -0800 > >> From: rick@glowdot.com > >> To: idm@hyperreal.org > >> Subject: Re: [idm] Zeitgeist: Addendum‏ > >> > >> Charles Goodwin wrote: > >> > Ya know, I never quite understood why people get so upset every time > > anyone posts anything that is not directly related to IDM, the same thing > > used to happen on the Tech-house list and now its dead. > >> > > >> Because this is the IDM list not the FW: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: RE: OMG > >> ZEITGIEST MIND BLOWN MUST SEE BU$$SH = HITLER CONSPIRACY list, that's why. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > -- > :) > I GoodSearch for Wilhelm Reich Infant Trust Foundation (Rangeley, > Maine) by using http://www.goodsearch.com/ . > > Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the > Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - > powered by Yahoo!
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