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Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:09:38 -0600
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RE: [idm] who still buys CDs
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It's been touched on in the way of "Hi Res Album Art" etc, but are there other things one can offer when dealing strictly within a digital realm that would add value to an entirely digital album release? It seems the stigma is that things obtained digitally for free or for low costs have little value because of the lack of work that was required to obtain them. Radioheads album 'leak' definitely had me excited because I had a chance to download their latest stuff, but in all honesty, it was kinda disappointed after the fact because that was it... once i listened to it, it felt like just another handful of mp3's id come across. I used to download SNES roms all the time, and to be honest, with the multitudes of games that I'd collect, i had probably only played a handful, and even those, Id easily lose my attention span because either there were thousands more to try out, or else it just wasn't real... Then i whipped out my SNES console and would play the games start to finish just like the old days... it felt more tangible to be holding an actual snes controller, getting proper snes slowdown in the right places, being able to crack open an instruction manual just to look at the illustrations, and knowing that this is the real deal. All that being said - there HAS to be some way to add an actual VALUE to the stuff someone purchases online, or even gets for free - something that gives them MORE than just something to stuff on their ipod... What if with the downloads, you also get exclusive high quality wallpapers/backgrounds for your OS. High res scans of some neat looking polaroids, some icons to use on your desktop, maybe a nicely designed PDF album cover. Something you can throw on your PDA and flip through, or even just flip through on your screen. You know what I'm saying tho? Essentially something - even though entirely within a digital realm - that customers/fans can actually *explore* when they have their purchase. The problem with free/pay MP3's is that we all know how fucking easy it is to offer our shit for free. Because it's so easy, and that we see that there's nothing more to it, it's simple to see how the package can be deemed as sub-par.. because there truly is little effort in offering music up in that medium, as well, theres little to no effort in actually acquiring it. Sure the music speaks for itself but until that first MP3 gets played, the process and product look almost EXACTLY the same for every transaction... Mantrakid (download my free mp3 album from www.neferiu.com!!!) har har. -----Original Message----- From: shimone@gmail.com [mailto:shimone@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Shimone @ StaticBeats Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:52 PM To: idm list Subject: Re: [idm] who still buys CDs yes Edwin - another good point. Digital Goods need to be priced *way* below the cost of physical goods. One example is hiphopsite.com who recently converted to an all-digital store. The prices of their digital releases however are only a dollar or 2 cheaper (and sometimes the same price) of what I can purchase them for in physical form elsewhere. They're trying their best by doing bonuses, limited releases and promotions but still - $13 for an album I don't get to hold?? For a couple bucks more I'd gladly take the physical good. Shimone @ Staticbeats On 10/24/07, Edwin Wong <ewong@unrecognized.org> wrote:
quoted 6 lines hello.> > hello. > > i buy quite a bit of music - maybe 25+ vinyl/cds a month... i listen to a > lot of music on my soundsystem at home and my iPod at work +i dj as well. > i'd consider myself a spotter/audiophile before dj, so with that - if its
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quoted 3 lines print, i'll buy originals... i have bought a pair of out of print alden> print, i'll buy originals... i have bought a pair of out of print alden > tyrell 12"s on iTunes, but thats it. the cost is what turns me away - for > 7gbp (boomkat), i need something tangible. when i buy records, i record
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quoted 18 lines to audio discs and mp3s myself...> to audio discs and mp3s myself... > > bye > > e. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: michael dunham [mailto:dphouse84@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:38 PM > To: John Goelzer; idm > Subject: RE: [idm] who still buys CDs > > > I'm a local dj / producer in my home town and have moved to Serato Scratch > and Ableton Live in my dj sets rather than luggin around a ton of records > and cd's. Scratch LIVE supports all these file formats: Fixed and
Variable
quoted 3 lines Bit Rate MP3, AIFF, WAV, OGG Vorbis, CD Audio.> Bit Rate MP3, AIFF, WAV, OGG Vorbis, CD Audio. > > Another great thing is the relative mode of play that is great. If a
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quoted 4 lines drunk person hits the booth the record doesn't skip, it just continues on> drunk person hits the booth the record doesn't skip, it just continues on > from where it was(virtually never missing a beat). I personally can't > notice if the file is 320 kbs the difference between a cd, record yes, > sometines. If a file gets any lower than 128kbs the songs sounds like
crap
quoted 7 lines IMO. 128 is the very minimum I will play if I cant get the file in any> IMO. 128 is the very minimum I will play if I cant get the file in any > other format. > > IMO the recording and mix down / mastering quality are extremely important > too. I've received 320 kbs files that sucked completely, but on the other > hand I have bought 128 files that sounded so rich and clear. Also getting > digital files from other dj's that produce enables you to get a track
before
quoted 12 lines (if it ever) it's released. Beatport, 3 beat, & Stompy are where I buy> (if it ever) it's released. Beatport, 3 beat, & Stompy are where I buy > most my EDM. A bit more expensive ranging between a dollar fifty and two > pounds 35 pence each track, but worth every penny. just my .02 > > peace 'n beats, > > michael > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:07:30 -0500> From: > johng@engberganderson.com> To: idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: [idm] who > still buys CDs> > > there are players on the market that> > play > uncompressed formats, but they> > don't have the marketing muscle or the> > > drive capacity of the ipod.> > and most digital downloads are mp3s.> > I
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quoted 1 line neither disagreeing with your preference for physical media nor> banging> neither disagreeing with your preference for physical media nor> banging
the
quoted 1 line drum for digital releases, but I would like to point out for> the benefit> drum for digital releases, but I would like to point out for> the benefit
of
quoted 2 lines anyone following this discussion that iPods can play not> only AACs ripped> anyone following this discussion that iPods can play not> only AACs ripped > to Apple Lossless Format but also regular old WAVs and> AIFFs if that's
your
quoted 3 lines preference.> > JG> >> preference.> > JG> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> To > unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> For additional
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